Medicare redefines "obesity" as medical

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Medicare redefines "obesity" as medical
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Fri, 07-16-2004 - 5:19pm

Very interesting article and

 

  Shawna

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Registered: 05-17-2004
Sadly, you are not in the majority HERE!

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Fear

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Registered: 07-27-2004
Your keep looking at the world through your rose colored glasses. I'm not on a high horse. I'll leave you all to your whining. If you want support, look out your window. When you notice that more then half of the people weigh less then you, then maybe that will clue you into the fact that your problem is your own fault and no one can help you but yourself

lots of love and smiles and hugs right back at you girls

have a good life

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Registered: 06-16-2004

Susan, I hope that the opinions of a few doesnt run you off.

 

  Shawna

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Registered: 07-16-2004
Sorry pragmatise but I see you as part of the problem, as you are definitly not offering any solutions by criticizing and insulting people. In fact, your behaviour is more damaging than inspirational. You may not be the type of person who offends easily but you know what, everyone is different. I know, it's a novel concept isn't? And guess what, there are people out there who care about other individuals outside of their immediate surroundings - even people they've never met. Go figure!?

Instead of judging others on your own 'successes' take a step back and try to see it from another point of view. Have you ever tried something so hard and challenging but yet can't seem to get it right? If you've never failed at anything in your life then I bow down to you because obviously your a perfect human being.

Your complaints about women not having self-confidence and "sit around and complain about their weight" compound the problem by beating them down before they can even start to gain that confidence and self-determination. Apparently you were born with this confidence and never had anyone insult you in your life. Lucky you. Not all of us were that fortunate. I don't blame my weight issues on others - it is my fault and I'm doing something about it but you know what, I can understand how people can blame others...I've witnessed the effects of abuse - sexual, physical and mental - and it's so damaging you can't even begin to understand the nightmares. So don't you dare insinuate that everyone can simply 'shrug it off' and get with their lives.



I find your comments ignorant and immature. Obviously you are incapable of caring about another individual outside of your little life. And frankly, if you can't say something positive and supportive to anyone this board that I ask you to leave. You are a defeatist who gets a sick thrill by putting others down to feel superiour.

We should admire the men and women on these boards who are at least trying to change themselves for the better more so than someone who is so negative and unsympathic.

Empathy is a long lost trait in this world - we need more of it.

Cheers

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Registered: 04-16-2004
damn I hate when these threads make it on the main board page.
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Registered: 07-16-2004
sorry i lost my cool with that one. postings like that should be ingnored sometimes. i'm still riled up from reading them.

cheers

Lisa

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Tue, 07-27-2004 - 10:50pm
NEWS FLASH:

Claiming that half the people weigh less means that there's ANOTHER half that doesn't. ;)

If overweight people want support, then HERE is where they are to get it. For those like YOU who don't need it, I question your motive for posting here in the first place. Notice I'm not questioning your right, I'm questioning your motive.

Obese people have a problem, correct, we all do anyway, correct, some show more than others, correct. Why can't they receive support here??? Now, if they actually CAN receive support here, then why are YOU here to ruin it? Are you here for support?...are you here to HELP support?...or are you here to make people feel bad? Why would someone who is obviously not overweight (you)...spend the time to jump on an overweight board?...especially if its not to lend support?

C h a r a c t e r


above all else


Mr. Para

 

C  H  A  R  A  C  T  E  R

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Registered: 07-27-2004
Tue, 07-27-2004 - 10:58pm
Is obesity a medical issue? I think obesity is a combination of things, depending on the . I do believe there are people genetically prone to being overweight, including thyroid issues. Are there obese people out there abusing the system? Sure, but blaming ALL for what only SOME are guilty of is incorrect thinking.

Thank you for your post saintsusan. I am brand new to posting on ivillage, but when I saw this subject and some of the posts on this board in particular (and some advice from my smart DH to cool me down), I knew I had to respond.

I, too, am obese. I'm not to the point where I will share my weight. Too often I've come across those that will judge me because of that single statistic, rather than getting to know me on a deeper level. Isn't it a shame that "obese" people are one of the few remaining "groups" that are blatantly allowed to be discriminated against and picked on because we are different than what society views as the "norm"?

I am 29. I was a healthy toddler, but by Kindergarten I was 48 inches tall and 99 pounds. I still tear up when I remember the teacher telling me in front of everyone that I needed to go on a diet. I can't tell you how many diets I've been on since then. And, no surprise, everyone in my family is obese as well, except for one sister and that's because she had gastric bypass last year.

My eating disorder is emotional eating. It's something I obviously learned as a young child. Unfortunately, no one realized or knew what I was doing. I am still confused how I stayed so fat since my summers were spent biking to the local pool that was 3 miles one way and swimming all day. When my childhood playment decided I was too young to be seen with (he was three years older), I did two things - I ate and I watched TV. I wish someone back then would have got me interested in some type of excercise other than swimming, which I wasn't allowed to do by my self. Food became my "best friend". I won't bore you with the rest of my life struggle with weight.

I've realize that diets don't work. I'm spending a lot of money in counseling dealing with the emotional pains I live with from all the people judging me and picking on me because of my weight. I am up to doing hour long water aerobics 3 times a week, and I walk on my lunchbreaks with my friends at work. I still struggle with emotional eating, but I made a step by acknowledging it. I feel my brain is cut off from my stomach. When I am full, my brain doesn't register it...I keep eating until I am miserable and then it registers that I've ate too much. I'm trying not to be my own worst enemy, but it is hard when there is so much negativity geared at obese people.

My Doctor truly believes that a big part of my obesity is due to genetic disposition. Get this, I am "morbidly obese" but I have NO co-morbidities. I laugh at new nurses when they take my blood pressure and retake it because it is perfect. I tell them "I'm fat, not dead!" I know, I am lucky. I know I face future medical issues, but that is why I am in conseling, trying to eat smaller portions, and excercising regularly.

I'm responding to you because it feels good to have someone that I can relate to. And, if someone else reads this post and is an emotional eater, I am hoping we can support one another.

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Registered: 04-19-2004
Tue, 07-27-2004 - 11:45pm
"Anyone can lose weight. With diet and exercise you WILL lose weight. You said that you were too afraid of dying from the tecniques that your mom was using on you when you were a child, but you will die if you keep at 300+ pounds. There is a difference with being overweight and just plain fat and 300+ pounds is just plain fat (sorry but it's true). Get a treadmill and eat healthy for 2 weeks and see how much weight you lose, I guarantee it will be enough to get you motivated to lose more."

Wow! You sound so sure of yourself! Just curious, but how do you know for sure that she will die if she stays at 300 pounds? What if she never deveops any dehabilitating diseases? Just because one is obese does not automatically mean the are going to absolutely develop diabetes, arthersclerosis, cardiac disease, COPD, etc. Yes, it is hard on the joints, but I recently read a post here that has a 325 woman who runs five K a day and is on a restricted calorie diet (is it the one whose mother got her into abusing laxatives? I'm trying to catch up) I say damn good for her!

And getting a treadmill and eating healthy will not address the issue of lifelong learned habits, or facilitate a change of mindset in just two weeks. Even if she lost ten pounds, do you really think that would be all it takes? Everyone is different, but DOES need to take responsibility for themselves. I am not a coddler, but I do offer a hand of support and encouragement and kindness to those who show an effort in changing thier lives instead of beratement.

Amy

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Registered: 04-19-2004
Tue, 07-27-2004 - 11:52pm
I'm sorry, but did you not realize this was a support board? You have come here and have immediately started attacking obese people, which is rather a low thing to do. Were we BOTHERING you in some way? Do you find our comraderie offensive, or possibly even threatening?

Please stop trying to be offensive and hurtful. You won't make any friends that way here.

Unfortunately, people fear what they do not understand.

Blessings,

Amy

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