Overtraining or what, age?

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Overtraining or what, age?
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Mon, 10-26-2009 - 8:01pm

My legs have been so tired lately!






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Mon, 11-02-2009 - 11:08am

Vodka, it is, then!






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Mon, 11-02-2009 - 9:03am

Thanks you for your kind comments...all you gals on the board are really great and supportive!
I tried to talk to DH about this but he has never been a "Gym Rat" so he doesn't really get it. He is very supportive and was quite upset to see me in so much agony. He even offered to go and punch out the trainer because he hurt me!LOL! Typical guy response huh?

I really don't know why I got so sore! I have been doing weights here and there a few sets 2 to 3 x a week so it's not like I had been doing nothing. I just don't think I should have been so sore.

Ballet is hard in a different way. When I started back is had been about 20 years for me too and you know what? I was completely crippled for a week. I remember going to my friends house to help her sew some drapes and we were in her basement work room. I literally could not get back up the stairs...my muscles would not move!!!She had to hold me and move my legs one at a time to go up the stairs. Talk about ridiculous...we laughed hysterically for a while after that ordeal.

I think once I talk to the trainer we will get things sorted out between us. I plan on taking him to a ballet class in the near future. I think he needs to do something out of his element to see what it feels like to be in the trainee's shoes...know what I mean? Plus I have this great desire to have him experience the level of soreness that I had after his sessions.
Cruel I know :)
We have people of all ages in our ballet class and it's very hands on. The teacher gives us all individual attention and ensures that we do not injure ourselves she will actually come and move you/show you what she wants you to do. I just love it! My good friend with MS (multipe sclerosis)has been going for the last 17 years! she is in great shape and this is what keeps her illness under control. With doing ballet she certainly has more good days then bad. We even have a lady who is 73 and she goes 3 times a week and even does the advanced class. She has a beautiful body and looks more like a 25 year old than a 73 year old. I kid you not. Her face is wrinkly but even her face looks about 20 years younger than her age.
AWESOME!
There's a big burly guy who works in a brick factory that comes 3 times a week. He loves dance and has taken ballroom before. He works out with weights and has a great physique. He was the star of our year end recital and had to do all sorts of lifts and spins with all of us girls. Weeee!

I love it!

Nathalie

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Mon, 11-02-2009 - 8:44am

I really appreciate all the great advice and comments that you and the others here on the board gave me.
The wine thing is weird huh? She told us that when she was a professional ballerina in Russia they always made sure not to drink the day before or the day of a performance....it would really affect them except for vodka...LOL! She said vodka is fine and doesn't do anything to your brain-muscle connection.
I think it's pretty interesting and would like to find more scientific data about this reaction to certain types of alcohol.
I love a glass of wine once or twice a week :)

I know for a fact that I strained my muscles. It was the worst pain I have ever felt. Today I feel perfectly normal...which is great. Yesterday I did a bit of leaf-raking and house cleaning which I think helped my circulation and getting rid of the last of the toxins in my system.

I have a session with the trainer today at 11:00 so I will be having a serious talk with him about what my goals are and what I expect from him...if he can't agree with me then I will ask the gym for another trainer. For sure.

I'll let you know what happens

Thanks for your support.

Nathalie

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Mon, 11-02-2009 - 8:35am

Thanks for your input....I agree with you. I think part of the problem was that I did not have compromised form and I was able to do what he was asking me. If I hadn't been able to and spoke up, he would have stopped me. I have 20+ years of experience with free-weights and it felt pretty natural to me...painful when the weights were heavy but mentally, I can get past that.
I have a session later this morning at 11:00. We are definitely having a serious talk about what I want to accomplish and what I expect from him.
I'll let you know what happens.

Nathalie

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Mon, 11-02-2009 - 8:29am

I can relate with the pride getting in the way and overdoing it.

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Mon, 11-02-2009 - 8:22am
Good point, Jean. There is the training and there is the "personal". Trainers have a duty to assess and respect a client's abilities and limitations.
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Mon, 11-02-2009 - 8:13am

You know, I had been wondering if having wine makes a difference.






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Mon, 11-02-2009 - 7:14am

Frankly, the trainer should have taken more care not to push you so hard in the first session. Even when you do your due diligence (medical history, etc.) as a trainer, you still have NO IDEA what the client's strength and weaknesses are. I've been a certified personal trainer for nearly 5 years and I always go pretty basic and light weights on the first session with a new person. I need to find that baseline before I can start pushing.

You do have some responsibility to speak up if it's too heavy, but the trainer should also be able to observe that it's too heavy. If it was that heavy, I imagine your form was probably pretty compromised and he should have stopped you immediately.

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Sun, 11-01-2009 - 8:39pm

Hi there! I came to the board to post about an experience I have been having lately and saw your post. I take a lot of ballet classes and our ballet mistress says that if you drink wine or beer this will affect the responsiveness of your muscles. Not sure if this is something you do but you know what? she is right! If I have a beer or a glass of wine and then the next day I go to class...I feel a big difference. It is very weird. That feeling of leaden legs is exactly how I would describe it.
My sister was telling me that as we age....IO am 46 and she is 49...that it does take a bit longer to recuperate from a heavy duty workout and boy she is certainly right about that too.
I recently hired a personal trainer to help me get back into shape. I need to lose about 15 lbs of body fat and gain back some of the muscle I lost (upper body mostly) when I was in a car accident two years ago. I weight trained for many years and know what to do but it's the motivation part that I need help with. So I hired a guy at the local gym. I observed him for a while and like the way he deals with his clients...he is no nonsense and pushes you very hard. I did tell him that I hadn't pumped any weights for several years and that all I do is take ballet class 3 times a week but even that I had not done for 3 months because the teacher was away in Russia.
Last Tuesday was our first hour session...we worked on chest, biceps and abs.
I did everything he asked and I guess I overdid it. When I got home I felt like I was done...completely...in fact, I had to take a nap...my body felt so tired. Later that night I woke up from a deep sleep in a lot of pain....my arms were so sore and cramping. I got up and drank some water and took some Motrin. I stayed downstairs and just watched TV so I wouldn't wake up DH with all my tossing and turning. The next day I met with the trainer and told him how very sore I was....could barely move my arms (I drive a 5-speed too BTW!~)we did some triceps and back and more abs and I can't even tell you how I managed to get through the session. It was all I could do to drive myself home. Again I had to flop into bed when I got home. I was even more sore that night and the next day Thursday I was a complete write-off...I did NOTHING!! Friday I was to meet him to do a leg and shoulder workout and I had to call and cancel,....there was no way I could do it.
The trainer called me on Saturday and asked if I was okay. I told him that no I was not okay and that maybe we had misunderstood each other. He said that he was very sorry and that there's no way that he wants me to be that sore. In his defense I should have told him that the weights were too heavy and that I needed to take it easy but I guess it was my pride that got in the way.
How did I get so out-of-shape??
UGH! I could not even put in or remove my contact lenses without extreme difficulty and just trying to towel dry after a shower was excruciating... DH even had to help me get dressed and undressed...not a bad thing really *wink*
Today was the first day that I could actually do anything normal.
I have 6 weeks off work to renovate things in my house...paint, clear out and have contractors in to do a few jobs...and this first week was a total and complete write-off!
I am so bummed out and now I am almost afraid to go and work out on Monday morning.
How could I be so stupid and silly! I'm not 20 anymore I am 46!!! what makes me think I
can train that hard when I have been doing NOTHING!
Has anybody else ever experience this degree of delayed onset muscle soreness? to the point where you felt queasy and completely debilitated.

Nathalie

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Fri, 10-30-2009 - 10:54am
Ha, you have just touched on my greatest fear. But, I managed to get there yesterday and put in speed work on the treadmill and then biked for a half hour at 100+ cadence. I had to ring my clothes out at the end of it. Crazy doesn't go away that easily.

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