Does this quote tick you off?

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Does this quote tick you off?
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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 9:45am

This is from the district sped director is in response to a request for an IEE which I based on the fact that my accademic concerns were not addressed.

"They remind that she is autistic and that most of our autistic students begin having a difficult time when the educational material becomes more abstract. They have developed realistic goals and accomodations to meet her needs"

FYI - this things that are typical for autistic kids.....

-Dropped 60pts on her state standardized testing
-Dropped 20 SS points (nearly 2 standard deviations) on her Non-verbal IQ
-Dropped 30 SS points (2 standard deviations) and 3 grade levels (from 7th grade reading level in 03, to a 4th grade reading level in 06) on her Reading
-Similar drops in fluency
-nearly failed 2 classes last year and they did "extra credit" to bring her up to a C and D.
-this is a child who was tested and accepted into GATE (gifted and talented education)

But I guess I should just accept this because she is autistic and they have made *Reasonable* goals and accomodations.

Renee

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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 10:08am

Yes that ticks me off to no end. And they are out of line even mentioning other students, IMO. This is about Cait not anyone else. This is supposed to be an indivualized education plan not a education plan close enough for any autistic student.

So sorry, Renee.
Samantha

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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 11:15am

What??? you didn't know all auties are cut from the same cloth and a one size fits all policy is appropriate.

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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 11:25am

I know in my short stint with special education department I was *shocked* that they asked me to write IEPs. I had *no* SPED training... I was just 'emergency certified' in special ed because they wanted to pull the special ed students out for Pre-Algebra/Algebra after the state changed the law which had exempted them from taking it for their diplomas. (My certification/training is in secondary Math.)

Anyway... in my 'regular ed' training we were taught that IEPs were like edicts from on high and you did *not* question them. You did whatever they said to the best of your ablity and then you tried to do it better. Then *these* people wanted *me* to *WRITE* them?? I was terrified.

I was terrified until they started trying to calm me down by telling me how 'easy' it was... then I was furious! They were *very* much 'cookie cutter' writing these things. Nine times out of ten they weren't even considering the child's diagnosis or test scores at all! Just his or her grade level and the grades they had earned in their classes this year. It was sickening. So much for an *I*EP.

Kristy

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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 11:29am

OM(insert bad word here)G, Renee~ That is just about as pathetic as it gets. I'm sooooo glad that they're reminding you of the stereotypical patterns of autistic children. Find a lawyer, find one fast...

Amy

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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 12:12pm

Dear Renee,

Un-ex-cept-able!!! Lawyer, lawyer, lawyer. How dare they! And they wrote it down, very stupid of them, I must say... but it shows how heads-up-their-butts they really are. Of course you running this by Steph at IEP Board as well? Ugh.

I feel your pain.

Sara

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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 1:46pm

Yes. Quotes like that ticks me off. You cannot blame everything on Autism. Cait seems very brilliant to me. SHe probably has a different method of learning instead of you just accepting it.

Hugs,
Anandhi

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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 6:41pm

Do you really have to ask?


Yes. On so many levels.


To me this reads:


"We have screwed up all our other Autistic kids, so why should Cait be any different?

-Paula

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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 9:45pm

Well, in your case I know what answer they will give. Under the age of 8 IQ scores are still changing and it could be due to a number of reasons why he scored low. That doesn't mean what they did was ok, that is just the excuse they give then. Still I would wonder what is going on with any kid who drops that much, ever.

Cait did that alot with the WISC when she was little. From low 90's Full scale to 117 Full scale. She now tends to hover right around 106-110 FIQ on that one. Her non-verbal IQ has always been high.

HOwever, in her case she started out lower and it went up and we were told to expect that. We were told that because of her language delays her first scores (90,92) were likely an underestimation of her true ability. The 117 came in the middle but that psychologist was a complete dingbat and I don't think her testing overall was accurate.

Cait however, has always scored high on her non-verbal IQ. You are talking a kid who was putting together puzzles by shape at a young age, etc. Every other non-verbal IQ test has put her in the 99th percentile before this. I don't know if the lower score is a) depression, b) seizures or c) lousy psychologist and innacurate results.

What I disagree with is the fact that like you, this didn't raise a red flag of concern because it was still within average limits.

Renee

PS. My friends son went from a 90IQ to a 68IQ when he was doing poorly. He also is a mixture kid but with mostly BP. Once he started doing better and was stable his IQ went back to 90's on his next eval.

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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 9:47pm

Good teachers and good schools don't make cookie cutter IEP's. Like my DH says, that is old school and riduculus. New school is the parents and school working together as a team to meet a childs unique needs.

A person without special education training should NOT be expected to just write IEP's and SHOULD NOT be told it is an easy thing.

OYE VEY! No wonder there is burn out amung teachers and frustration amung parents.

Renee

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Fri, 10-06-2006 - 9:48pm

OMG, Amy Cussed!

Looking for that lawyer.....

Renee

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