Immunizations for NT kids?

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Immunizations for NT kids?
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Thu, 05-01-2008 - 10:15pm

So my 3yo (soon to be 4yo) is scheduled for her 4 yo well child check-up in July and is due for a bunch of immunizations.

                                

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Thu, 05-01-2008 - 10:38pm

Hmmm....ah the can of worms commences, lol;)

Here's our deal. Liam (8) had EVERYTHING and I mean everything; looking back at his shot record he has vaccines that were recommended but not "necessary." I was a dumb youg Mom, neeed I say more?!

Cian (4) had most shots until age 2, and he even had a few extra for his age as I was looking for less thimerosol and that meant getting a combined 6 in one shot at the time. Of course dumb young momma at the time didn't know about the multiple live vaccines as well as the other toxins (aluminum etc).

Now I have one child more affected than the other and yes the one with less mercury and less live vaccines is less affected. A coincidence??? Perhaps....but then again do I play the russian roulette card with child #3.

So we had Roan.....she has had nothing but a vitamin K shot at birth. I still do not know what I'll do. I am waiting until age two. I have been told by the current ped that by age two there are some vaccines she won't need as she's past the critical years, (eg: pertussis), so yes I still breastfeed. I am willing to look at MMR only if its separated (it's easier to turn lead into gold here- pardon the heavy metal pun), and a dead polio shot; perhaps a single tetanus.

Honestly when I look at what we gave kids in the early '80s and today's schedule it's a big eye opener. you can look at www.generationrescue.org for the info. Do know they are in the frame of mind that vaccines and mercury have a contributing relationship in the rise in autism, but they have some good visuals to see the difference in vaccines between then and now.

Personally I will continue to vaccinate my children based on THEIR need and no more. I will not adhere to the school/state schedule, and I will not be bullied or scared into unnecessary vaccines by the ped.

Heather, are you living in MD; you can sign off on religious preferences (I did when living in Westminster and Liam entered Kindy and Cian was in daycare there-Carroll County.

Dee

edited to add: I just saw on another post you breastfed dd past age two...that will be a huge asset to your decision about vaccines too:)

Edited 5/1/2008 10:41 pm ET by roanmom




Edited 5/1/2008 10:42 pm ET by roanmom
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Thu, 05-01-2008 - 10:57pm

Thanks Dee, it does help to know that I wasn't the only young mom (or at least mom of a young child since I was in my 30's LOL) who went along with what the docs recommended.

                                

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Thu, 05-01-2008 - 11:30pm

Get that form notarised and stick it to the man girl, lol.

Dh and I just had a discussion tonight (courtesy or your post) and we both agree, nothing for Roan until at least 2, and most probably 4....and then that's 2010, who knows what'll happen between now and then (my cynical side says 24 new vaccines....sigh).

Dee

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Fri, 05-02-2008 - 7:51am

I told him I wouldn't risk it because of Kyle's issues and her own issues.

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Sat, 05-03-2008 - 12:09am

I just mentioned this in another post, but Cali our dd is behind. She is almost 3 and only has up to her 1 year vaccinations.


We are still not sure what to do either. She has outgrown but did have PFAPA a rare fever disorder and now the longer she has been unvaccinated the better she has become...so I just can't wonder was it the shots.


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Sun, 05-04-2008 - 6:33am

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Sun, 05-04-2008 - 2:42pm

The research has indicated has only proven that there is no scientific proof and much of that research too is funded by government grants. To prove something scientifically beyond a doubt is like running into a brick wall again and again. And as much of the information out there is anecdotal or years old science's harden fast and narrow procedeures are going to come up with the answers they have.

The fact though that the government funds a vaccine injury court system seems to suggest that there is an understanding that vaccines can cause harm for certain children with specific auto immune responses. Sadly as these children are so young/little at the time often their immune responses haven't been tested until receiving multiple shots or immunisations laden with toxins. Once the high fever that accompanies the body's immune response attacks the brain the damage really is done; any time from hours after to ten days after the shot in question.

Honestly though, regardless of whether vaccines are related to ASD or not, just look at the amount of shots administered in 1983 and then again today- then look at the rise in many childhood disorders. including tourettes, anxiety, mood-disorders, seizure disorders. Too many neurologically based disorders in too short a time.

Once again an opinion,

Dee

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Sun, 05-04-2008 - 3:10pm

Hey, I have always been curious, but does anyone know the year they first started vaccinating kids?


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Sun, 05-04-2008 - 4:02pm

It started in the 1750's where the smallpox vaccine was first successfully used, (I believe the man's name was Jenners). By early 20th century smallpox vaccination was necessary in most public schools for attendance. Actually though variolation was seen as early as the 3rd and 4th century in China with small parts of smallpox scabs blown up the nostrils of children to give them a milder form of the illness and thus immunity.

It is really due to the smallpox vaccine and the legal wranglings therein that see so many states make that vaccination a legal requirement that opened the door for vaccines among school children.

I believe it was after WW II that we saw an increase of modern vaccines; so many GI's bringiong home hep B I'm sure didn't help and most definitely the success of the polio virus speaks for itself.

Coincidentaly Asperger and Kanner's research had been conducted around and after WWII when vaccines had grown from just smallpox and so had the commonplace use of thimerosol and other heavy metal based adjuncts.

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Sun, 05-04-2008 - 5:21pm

K I looked that date up (lol really bad with history dates!) and it looks like it started in 1937 right?

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