Is he getting enough

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Is he getting enough
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Tue, 04-14-2009 - 11:43am

Hi,


I think my Qs these days dont make too much sense ;) , but here i go again..


I have a 8 1/2 month old and i have recently started working, about 20 days ago. i go at 06:30 in the morning and return at 04:30 in the afternoon. I nurse him a little while before i leave and for the rest of the day when i return

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Registered: 01-28-2007
Tue, 04-14-2009 - 12:44pm

IMHO he should be getting more milk. I was looking at a sample menu and this is what it says:

For Babies 7 to 9 months of age:

Watch baby's cues, but be careful not to go "too fast" with too many solids. Some babies will do fine with a little "meal" every few days, every other day, or every day, for weeks after beginning solids. This is fine. Other babies may increase to daily solids pretty quickly.

How much breastmilk should my baby be getting?
At 7 to 8 months, at least 5 nursings in 24 hr period;
Early morning: breastmilk (nursing)
Breakfast: At least one hour after nursing;
1-2 tbsp infant cereal or whole grain cooked oatmeal,
top off with cup (oz or two) of breastmilk, water, or nurse again if desired.
Midmorning: Nurse, then half an hour or hour later,
can offer 1/4 cup unsweetened fruit juice,
Snack ideas may include a 1/4 slice dry toast or 1 cracker, hand full of dry cheerios, or a graham cracker.

For Babies 9 + Months of Age:

By 9 mo many babies are ready for, or have gradually increased to a max of 2 "meals" per day. Again, watch your baby's cues - some babies are just really starting to get an interest in solids and may still be "taste testing" or having 1 "meal" a day - and this is fine. Remember, solids are meant to compliment the breastmilk diet (as per AAP recommendations).

How much breastmilk should my baby be getting? At 9 to 10 months, at least 4 nursings in 24 hr period
Early morning: breastmilk (nursing)
Breakfast:
2-3 tbsp infant cereal or whole grain cooked oatmeal,
2-3 tbsp fruit, (if offering 1 tbsp cereal, may mix with 2 tablespoons fruit, for example - total intake may reach up to 4 oz per "meal")
and then top off with cup (oz or two) of breastmilk, water, or nurse again if desired.
Midmorning: Nurse, then half an hour or hour later,
can offer 1/4 cup unsweetened fruit juice,
1/4 slice dry toast or 1 cracker, hand full of dry cheerios, or a graham cracker.
Nurse again between midmorning and lunch (about one hour before lunch)
Lunch:
1-3 tbsp vegetable,
1-3 tbsp fruit,
1-3 tbsp meat or meat alternative,
1 cracker or dry cheerios,
may offer sippy cup with water or breastmilk if desired (couple oz)

from: http://www.mother-2-mother.com/samplemenus.htm

Are you pumping at work to maintain supply? Could you take a cooler with ice to store it? Could you pump at home either in a new session or while he nurses and leave that for the next day? Personally I would want him to get some BM two times while you are gone. I don't think it's bad to just do fruits and veggies. You could start trying some yogurt, cheese, or egg yolk ( http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/solidfood8to10montholdbaby.htm )


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Registered: 06-10-2008
Tue, 04-14-2009 - 1:19pm

Just to confirm, he's getting only solids and no bottles of any kind during the day? If that's the case, he should be getting something. If it can't be breastmilk, then it should be formula. You have no refrigeration at all available to you?


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Registered: 09-02-2008
Tue, 04-14-2009 - 2:03pm

Thanks Jenny and Dana for your response!


I have just moved to a new city and a new job and workk is really hectic, somedays i dont get time for even a drink of water so pumping is not possible at all and once i come back ds acts super clingy to allow me any time onmy own without him screaming in the back ground to relax enough to pump.


Just to confirm, he's getting only solids and no bottles of any kind during the day


Only solids between 0630am and 0430pm. guess i should increase his water intake then since he does not like formula or maybe give him very watery cereal?


this relocation has really put a big dent in my finances so till i can move my old fridge to my new house i cant go for even

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Registered: 01-12-2006
Tue, 04-14-2009 - 5:35pm

Adding water and juice isn't likely to help the situation.

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Registered: 01-28-2007
Tue, 04-14-2009 - 6:40pm

From what I understand, the problem with not giving enough breastmilk or formula is that your baby needs the fat and a more complete source of nutrients. The fat is especially important for brain development. The solids just don't have calories to meet his needs right now. You might start to see some weight loss without more BM or formula.

At home I would breastfeed as much as possible. Take advantage of the clingy and nurse. A lot. Add in a dream feed or two. Cosleep and allow him open access. Or get up once in the night and pump. If at 66-72 degrees room temp it will keep for 10 hours which would provide a feeding for the day.

Stick with high calorie foods for him, avocado, yogurt, cheese, sweet potato. Sneak in fat where you can.

I would also look into legally what breaks you are allowed. You should be allowed some breaks even if short. Or can you hands free pump and work at the same time? Unless you beef up nursing at home, your supply is going to go down.

I'm sorry that things suck. There's got to be a way to get more milk in.


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Wed, 04-15-2009 - 11:50am

August,


I agree with others that baby needs more milk for optimal development. Weight gain seems good to me, though. Am I reading right, that baby gained 0.6 kg in a little over a month?- because that's 1 lb 5 oz. I'm not the expert, so I'm not sure what weight gain should be in an 8 1/2 month old, but that works out to be around 0.14 kg (5 oz) per week. Maybe reverse cycling would work out fine- just make sure to get LOTS of feeds in. Maybe send some bm in a cooler with ice- he could eat cold or it could be mixed with something he is accustomed to eating with sitter?
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Registered: 09-02-2008
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 11:54am

hi


i was hoping i wouldnt have to give him formula. Once he gets the taste of fast, uniform flow of bottle, even with slow flow nipples, he becomes very impatient while nursing if the flow isnt good that would again affect my already dipping supply. but i guess its better then him not having enough.


When you say mix olive oil with his food, does that mean cooking his food in olive oil or can i just add some oil straight off the bottle into his food like cereal? I dont know too much about even adult food, that's why i ask these qs that might seem silly.


I am trying to get my fridge here as soon as possible but even when i start pumping i think it will take a few days before i will be able to pump enough for even one feed.


What are you eating and keeping in the house w/o a fridge?

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Registered: 09-02-2008
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 11:58am

Hi Jenny,


At home i nurse him as much as i can. But it seems he is not getting enough sleep through the day so he sleeps early and even though i try and nurse him at night he keeps dozing off. I will start formula before his health gets affected adversly for lack of nutrition.


At work, i can take breaks if i want to but there is just so much to do that even a small break would mean staying longer in the evening so i avoid that to be able to rush home as soon as possible. I am literally just running these days...


There is no place to pump in my office and if i go to the washroom for that i dont think i would be able to relax enough to get anything out.


I really appreciate your suggestions and concern. It helps somewhat even just

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Registered: 01-12-2006
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 12:04pm

My sil used to mix the olive oil into baby foods straight.

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Registered: 04-13-2008
Thu, 04-16-2009 - 7:14am

72 F is only 22 degrees Celsius, and I am sure that India, where August lives, is probably hotter than that most of the time. It is probably like where I live, where that is winter for me. With summer being much hotter again. Even the nights don't drop much lower most of the time in winter.

August, I really think that lots of bf when you are with him sounds like the best option at the moment - as others have suggested, co-sleeping and allowing him free access to nurse during the night will help him get enough, while you still rest.

I can understand your plight and how difficult things are for you.

If it is possible to get some ice each day, leaving some expressed milk kept cool by that would be an option also.

Teresa

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