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Wed, 06-23-2010 - 10:59pm

I just wanted to thank those that responded to my post "Is this normal with BF'ing."

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In reply to: inminnynow
Thu, 06-24-2010 - 9:36am

Glad we could help steer you in the right diretion and that it's something that's pretty easily fixed! I'm betting after a little bit of being on medication that you'll feel like a new woman!

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In reply to: inminnynow
Thu, 06-24-2010 - 12:52pm

I'm so glad that it was something easily diagnosable. Be sure to check back here if you run into any questions about which meds are compatible with breastfeeding. Feel better, sweetie!


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In reply to: inminnynow
Thu, 06-24-2010 - 8:21pm

Argh.. I posted something and it somehow never made it up.


As I was saying.. :-)

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In reply to: inminnynow
Thu, 06-24-2010 - 10:12pm

The AAP recommends giving breastfed babies a vitamin D supplement regardless, but as you are aware that you are vitamin D deficient, I would seriously consider supplementing your child. LO is likely not calcium deficient because of the amount of milk she's drinking, but she probably is diminishing your supply. Momma's bodies will give up everything to make sure that baby gets what it needs!

There isn't any problem with you taking Synthroid at whatever dose you need or with taking vitamin D/Calicium supplements yourself. Think of it this way... you aren't taking an "extra" mediation. You're replacing something that should be there and isn't.

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In reply to: inminnynow
Mon, 07-05-2010 - 10:13am

Just wanted to give you the "LC" answer. I totally agree that whatever amount of replacement thyroid hormones you need whether they use syntroid or levoxyl, both are fine since they are just giving you what your body isn't making and it should help with milk supply too.


As far as vitamin D, I just attended a conference with an excellent speaker who is doing research on vitamin d. She was excellent and recommends vit D supplements for everyone. 400 IU for a baby and 2000 or more for any adult. You can get baby vitamin D in drop form (one drop = 400IU) so you only need to give the baby one drop and there isn't a bunch of sugar and artifical flavors in it or unnecessary 'extras'. I've seen it in drug stores and even my market in with the vitamins.


The reasoning is b/c we are not outdoors as much as our ancient ancestors to get vitamin D from the sun, when we are outside

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In reply to: inminnynow
Mon, 07-05-2010 - 2:58pm

I'm interested in your thoughts on the vitamin D supplement, specifically. I've certainly seen all the new recommendations for supplementing everyone with vitamin D, as the argument is that no one is outside enough to get it naturally anymore. However, if as a family, you make an effort to be outdoors everyday without sunscreen (we don't use sunscreen as a family before 10:30 a.m. or after 4 p.m.) and live in the south, where there is sun during this time but we seem not to burn w/o sunscreen during these hours. I'd say we average an hour outside a day w/o sunscreen. Previously the recommendation was that if you got 20-30 minutes a day of sun, supplements were unlikely to be necessary. I myself am fair skinned (red hair / blue eyes) but surprisingly sun tolerant according to my dermatologist. My kids have olive skin, as their father is of asian / pacific island descent. I have always felt very strongly about not giving anything but breastmilk before 6 mos (my kids are older now and do now get a daily multi-vitamin). And have never given any vitamins before my child could take a chewable sometime after their first birthday. My second child did have to have an antibiotic at 4 1/2 mos due to a respiratory infection that she couldn't seem to kick on her own. She was never extremely sick, just annoyingly so. Four weeks into the infection, she began gagging and vomiting on the thick drainage, so we agreed to the antibiotics. She was feeling better w/in one day. I know she needed the meds, but I still don't regret having waited that long to give them to her, as so many times, our bodies can fight off infection if given enough time to do so.

At any rate, we are considering another baby, and this is a new recommendation which I will no doubt have to discuss with a pediatrician (likely to be new, as I'm considering a change from our existing doctor now who says she is very breastfeeding friendly but who I've always found to make recommendations that would in fact destroy the breastfeeding relationship of many mothers w/ their children if they were not self educated about nursing and what is normal, etc.). Most recently, she was highly frustrated that my barely 3 yo was still nursing a couple times a day, arguing that she's not really getting anything now and it's just up to me to end it. That combined with a couple other issues have just led me to make a change. Not abruptly. I have to find someone who is actually better.

But to get to the point, essentially, as a family, I've always felt strongly we more than exceed the recommended daily time outside and figure that natural vitamin d is likely a better choice than supplemental vitamin d. I see all the findings that many people are low, which makes me question whether or not we really do spend enough outdoor time, but I think as a culture, most people probably DON'T spend much outdoor time. But we also think many children today are suffering from a NATURE deficit ... something we strongly wish to avoid.

What are your thoughts as a medical professional? I appreciate your input.
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In reply to: inminnynow
Mon, 07-05-2010 - 9:31pm

While I'm not Kathy, I just wanted to say that I'm very much in the same situation as you are. I'm fair skinned, spend time outdoors, and live in a more southern latitude. When I had my vitamin D level checked, I wasn't just low. I was so deficient as to be causing me to become osteoporotic. Now, I do have to say that that was after 18 months of nursing my first son, so my body may have been passing along every last bit it had to him which might have aggravated things, but no one can say for sure. I just wanted to throw out there that it can seem like you're doing everything right and still be vitamin D deficient which is why I'm all behind doing the supplements (the ones you can get that don't have all the other additives). If you want to know for sure, you could always have your level checked which should help you know if you need to supplement or not.

Also, keep in mind that it's really recommended that everyone wear sunscreen when outside all the time, and even apply it 20 minutes before going out, but I'm sure your dermatologist has told you that. That's really more for any other people who may be reading this thread and opting to take their chances too. You don't have to be fair skinned to get skin cancer. And it's also recommended that infants prior to 6 months be kept in the shade entirely as it's not recommended to use sunscreen on their skin at that age.

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In reply to: inminnynow
Tue, 07-06-2010 - 11:40am

I called my ped to explain to her my new-found situation with D Deficiency and Hypothryoidism. I asked her if this would be an automatic issue with DD, and if I should giver her supplements, esp since EBF'ing.


The nurse jumped down my throat and said not knowing for sure if

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In reply to: inminnynow
Tue, 07-06-2010 - 4:41pm

I'm so sorry you're struggling with your peds office! Next time you're there, print this out and give it to them!

http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/pediatrics;122/5/1142

Too bad that you're having to educate them and their nursing staff. That would make me wonder how educated they are about other things as well since this vitamin D recommendation is quite well known.

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In reply to: inminnynow
Tue, 07-06-2010 - 7:29pm

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