please say that there's hope...!

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please say that there's hope...!
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Tue, 09-29-2009 - 5:58pm

DH had open-heart surgery on September 16th.  He is recovering well, and is in relatively good spirits despite inflated expectations from unrealistic doctors – they said surgery would take 4-5 hours, it was 9 hours; they said 1-2 days in the CTICU, it was 3-4 days, they said minimal pain, dh, who is an elite athlete and has the highest pain tolerance of anyone I know was in agony; they said 4-5 days in the hospital, it was 7.  Now that our expectations have been reset, and we are prepared for what we still have to face, DH is much happier.  He now looks forward to the day he will be able to sleep on his back instead of expecting to return to work next week.

It has been an unbelievably stressful 2 weeks punctuated by a nursing strike by DD, and a HUGE drop in supply.  Neither one of us was prepared for the hospital stay and since I didn’t really expect to be spending _that_ much time there, I had no real plans for when/where to pump.  It was a nightmare, and I ended up pumping twice a day if I was lucky.  Many days 5 or 6 hours would pass before I could pump.  To make matters worse, DD decided that she would much rather have a bottle than nurse because she doesn’t have to wait for a letdown, and she can hold the bottle herself and look around at everything happening around her while she is eating. Last night at her 2am feeding I never had a letdown. I was devastated. That has never happened.

I am pumping 5-6 times a day again, and I am getting about 10-11 ounces.  DD usually has about 14 ounces in the 12.5 hours we are apart.  I am going to tell her DCP to start giving her lunch as well as breakfast, in hopes that it will help fill in some.I am trying to pump as much as possible, and started taking More Milk Plus along with oatmeal twice a day. I have already pumped 5x today and DD nursed once. I am hoping she will nurse at least 2 more times and I will pump again before bed.

Is there any hope? Will my supply recover at this point? I am sure that stressing
About it isn't helping. Spencer, any words of wisdom?

TIA, ladies!

Susie - Mom to Jessie and 3 furbabies


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Registered: 05-04-2008
Tue, 09-29-2009 - 6:04pm

Susie...


So sorry to hear about DHs surgery -- hopefully everything will be okay now?

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Registered: 08-02-2006
Tue, 09-29-2009 - 6:21pm

Wow, I didn't know you were going through so much!

*SPENCER* happy Mami of two precious princesses! 

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Tue, 09-29-2009 - 7:31pm

I agree with the others, and I think your plan looks well. and here's a hug ::HUUGGGGG:: for all you've gone through.


Your DH and family will be in my prayers!! =)

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Registered: 06-17-2008
Tue, 09-29-2009 - 9:54pm

Thanks so much, ladies.

Susie - Mom to Jessie


 

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Wed, 09-30-2009 - 3:07pm

Susie, I am so sorry, I didn't know you were going through all of that...BIG HUGS!!

Second, you know that I understand what a nursing strike is like and relaxing is just not going to happen. I will say try to dream feed as much as possible. Don't wait until she gets up to nurse, go in and get her still asleep and bring her in bed with you side lying, she should start suckling, no pressure and then the two of you are relaxed, if you wait long enough (took us two hours once) and you close your eyes, you just may get a let down. I had this exact experience where I didn't get a let down, more than once, and it is DEVASTATING! You can go back and read my posts from June about that. It takes extreme patience. Do you have any time you can take off of work? If so, try to plan a long weekend, a nursing vacation and just chill out with Jessie with your shirt off and put her to the breast as much as possible. It's ok if she just latches and doesn't nurse...put her in position as often as you can, but don't force her to stay there, keep switching sides when she fusses, I do this with Rhe almost daily. don't let her get frustrated, you want all her experiences at the breast to be calm and pleasant. Try walking/bouncing and nursing. Rhe would nurse sometimes during her strike if I walked her around in nursing position, bouncing and humming to her. go figure. Getting them to relax is just as hard as relaxing yourself. I can tell the difference in Rheanna's breathing when she calms down and concentrates, it's like she gives in and just lets it happen. I also use visualization techniques, I still have trouble from time to time with let down, so I think about Rheanna, how much I love her, I picture her at different ages, holding her hand, her talking to me, how happy I am to be her mother, etc, etc, etc and then all of a sudden, bam! let down. Sometimes I even picture flowing milk, like a waterfall. It really does work. It also helps relax you before you realize it's happening.

I have lots of other tricks. You know where to find me if you need anything!

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Thu, 10-01-2009 - 11:50am

Jules, I know you can relate. I remember your posts when you first returned to work! Thanks for the support and the good ideas. I only have a second to post, but I'll catch up with you on FB.

Thanks again!!

Susie - Mom to Jessie and 3 furbabies


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Thu, 10-01-2009 - 11:55am

I realize that I need to be patient and that stressing about it isn't going to help, but I am on day 3 of pumping and nursing a ton and while DD isn't fussing quite as much (though now I need to do a football hold on the left side to get her to nurse on that side) my pumping supply is still terrible, and doesn't seem to be improving! I am taking the More Milk Plus, and have ordered more Fenugreek (I still have some Blessed Thistle which I will start taking again when I get the Fenugreek). Do you think it might be worth it to rent a Symphony pump from the hospital? Are they really that much better?

TIA!!

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Registered: 09-27-2007
Thu, 10-01-2009 - 2:51pm

Hi there-
Are you still getting 10 - 11 oz at work? I really don't think that you should consider that amount "terrible!" Really - if you add in some breakfast at daycare that should cover the extra couple oz you are missing. Have you introduced yogurt yet? Maya has been having yogurt for breakfast every day since about 8 mos old and she loves it. I add baby cereal and fruit for texture and tastiness!

As far as the nursing strike, 7 mos old is a very busy time for babies and I think a nursing strike is very common at that age. I could only get Maya to nurse in a dark quiet room at that age. Have you tried dimming the lights, and either putting on relaxing music, or a white noise machine? We used a "sleep sheep" that played nature sounds that really helped block out ambient noise and helped both of us relax.

I agree with the PP suggestion of thinking about how much you love your LO, what she was like as a newborn, what she will be like as a toddler, etc.

Sorry I don't have the info you are looking for about the other type of pump, but I do hope you are able to get things flowing again on your own :-) Good luck!

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Thu, 10-01-2009 - 4:29pm

I wish I was getting 10-11 ounces at work...that's what I used to get on a good day. Now I am getting 7-8 ounces at work and 10-11 ounces _total_ including my pre-bed and early morning pumps. This leaves me about 3 1/2 ounces short every day. I am trying not to stress about it, but every day my freezer stash has one less bottle, and I only have 9 bottles left in there at this point. my supply needs to return fast! I am trying hard not to stress about it.

We tried yogurt and DD loved it! Sadly, it did not love her, and she got a terrible tummy ache after eating it. She is definitely dairy intolerant. I'm hoping she will grow out of it soon.

What really stinks is not being able to get any support IRL. I have already lasted so much longer than anyone I know that they all tell me to supplement with formula..."what's the big deal?" UGH! Sorry for the mini-rant. Thanks so much for your reply!

Susie - Mom to Jessie and 3 furbabies

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Thu, 10-01-2009 - 5:37pm

(((hugs)))


I know it's hard, but you probably need to give it a little more time.

*SPENCER* happy Mami of two precious princesses! 

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