All-boy families in the USA - and circumcision?

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Registered: 01-06-2002
All-boy families in the USA - and circumcision?
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Tue, 01-08-2013 - 12:10am

I'm a twin of one brother and a brother to two younger brothers: four boys (now adult) - and no sisters. I have always regreted no sisters - as did my parents, whose final attempt to try for a girl produced a fourth boy.

I'm English. We don't routinely circumcise our boys. I've seen no recent mention on this board of issues involving circumcision. Does this mean American parents of all-boys leave them intact? Or does it simply mean that circumcision is still the status quo? If your family included daughters would they question it?

Christopher

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Registered: 03-24-2005

Circumcision was pretty much the norm in America for long time, but now many parents opt not to circumcise.  It's pretty much an individual decision for each family.

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Registered: 12-16-2003
Sat, 01-12-2013 - 11:47pm
Why would a sister question her brother's circumcision?

Ramona  Mom to 2 great kids and wife to one wonderful hubby since 1990!

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Sat, 01-19-2013 - 11:20pm

Ramona, it would depend upon several things.

If she had only one brother, I doubt she would question his circumcision. The same might be true if she had more brothers - all circumcised. But I think if she had two or more brothers with one or more left intact or circumcised, she would wonder why they were different.

Her cultural influence would play a large part in her reaction. In the UK, she would probably think a circumcised brother had some kind of problem with his penis, and feel sorry for him. In the US perhaps the reverse would be true: she might feel sorry for an intact brother (but I hope not).

I'm one of an all-boy family. As I grew older I both wished I had a sister and was glad I didn't - in equal measure. Grls were an enigma, though ever present in my day to life in the wide world beyond my family. I went to an all-boy boarding school, not because my parents wanted it that way but because there were no mixed sex boarding schools then. So I lived with boys 24/7 during term time at school until I was 18. Today, the very same school I attended then is now both for boys and girls.

In my first years at that school, there was an American boy in my dormitory, the son of an American serviceman stationed in England. We got dressed and undressed with little privacy (and none during bath time or showers). He was circumcised. Collectively, we saw this, one night in our 'dorm' when changing for bed. We were transfixed, staring in disbelief.  A couple of boys made some crude remarks but the rest of us were  shocked. Bravely, he simply said, "I had an operation." That was all we needed to know. He was a friend to us from that moment until he left school.

I would like to think an American girl with an intact brother or an English girl with a circumcised brother, would be as understanding.

Christopher

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Registered: 12-16-2003
Sat, 01-19-2013 - 11:32pm
Why would a sister be checking out her brothers' penises? And why would they care? I just don't think a girl would really know or care. It just would never be something a sister would ever care about.

Ramona  Mom to 2 great kids and wife to one wonderful hubby since 1990!

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Sun, 01-20-2013 - 12:11am

Ramona,

I have one son, two biological daughters and a third adopted daughter. (Not mention grandsons and a granddaughter.)

Goodness, it's nothing to do with "checking out" their brother's penis. He was my last born. They often cared for him, which involved changing his nappy as a baby and looking after him as an older little boy.

So it should be in a loving family.

Christopher

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Registered: 12-16-2003
My dd took care of her younger brother, I just think the girls will not question that. It just is the way things are.

Ramona  Mom to 2 great kids and wife to one wonderful hubby since 1990!

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Registered: 03-24-2005

I have a brother 8 years younger than me, and I don't recall ever thinking twice about his circumcision.  I guess if there was one brother who was and one who wasn't then it might raise more questions, but I think that's probably a fairly unusual circumstance.

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Thu, 01-31-2013 - 11:24pm

Ramona, your reply made me think again - as has others:. "girls will not question that. It just is the way things are."

But woud Engish girls be the same when circumcision is so rare here? Are sisters universally able to be as acceptable of the difference between intact and circumcised, and give it barely a thought?

Christopher

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Registered: 12-16-2003

It would be no different than one being blond and another brunette. It just is. I really see no reason why mort sisters would even know. My dh is the oldest and I am sure that his sisters have no clue if he is or not and I truely believe they could not care less!

Ramona  Mom to 2 great kids and wife to one wonderful hubby since 1990!

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Registered: 01-06-2002

Except one is man-made and the other a natural difference. So to say "it just is" is only true of hair colour (using your example).

Visit a circumcision message board on any family orientated website and you will find many American parents who circumcised their first boy but left any others intact. Are you saying that in you opinion older siblings (boy or girl) helping with the care of their younger brothers from time to time would notice one with a foreskin and another without - and assume it's the way boys are born? It just is? After all, we're all unique in our physical appearance; even identical twins have small anatomical differences.

Christopher

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