4-H this year...

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4-H this year...
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Wed, 09-10-2008 - 8:06pm

Aly's paid to be in 4-H, and she attended the first meeting. She will have to write a 100-word essay about why it's important to her to be in 4-H. She hasn't picked her projects yet because they were supposed to have the packets by the first meeting, but Gustav came instead. So that will be coming soon.



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In reply to: alygator
Wed, 09-10-2008 - 8:08pm

Also, the parish fair will likely be canceled this year due to the hurricane. The fairgrounds (the buildings) sustained significant damage and they are using the land space as a staging ground for utilities/tree companies, etc.



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Sat, 09-13-2008 - 4:11pm
She HAS to write a 100 word essay?? Wow! I think i'd lose most girls if I started making them write essays. Or is it a part of a contest of some sort?
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Sat, 09-13-2008 - 4:42pm

This is for 4-H, not Girl Scouts.


It was a school decision because every year at our school, a whole bunch of students sign up for 4-H and get the books (these cost money), never pay, and then drop out. Having so many signed up to do projects but not complete them makes the school's club look bad to the 4-H agents, and it could actually bring repercussions, too. They think it's a club they can just get out of class for to attend club meetings and go on the field trip (they actually can't go on the field trip if they didn't stick with it, but they don't realize when they get started).


So, to actually have to write an essay, it will deter some from joining, but not those who REALLY want to do 4-H--the ones that should be in the club.

So, yes, like you said, you would lose girls...that's the whole point...so they would lose the kids who just want a "free" pass to get out of class.


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Mon, 09-15-2008 - 8:19am
Yeah, I knew it was 4-H and it actually makes sense that they'd do it, now that you explain. I didn't realize kids got out of class of it--I can see why some might want to join for that alone!
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Mon, 09-15-2008 - 6:52pm

The leader was telling me today, she had to kick kids out of THAT meeting for chit-chatting with friends, and all that meeting was about was getting a paper that said they had to 1) have their instructional fee paid to the school, 2) pay $17 for membership, 3)fill out the form when it came in, and 4) write the 100-word essay.

But it was over 150 kids. I don't even think that's legal to have that many kids with just one or two people!

It would be a total waste of time if they didn't have restrictions, and I wouldn't let Aly join--not if she'd be clueless throughout.



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Tue, 09-23-2008 - 10:16am

Very interesting ... I'm located in Iowa, and we don't have 4-H clubs that are involved at the school level.

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Tue, 09-23-2008 - 5:56pm

I know that there are homeschool groups/clubs out here, but personally I've only "seen" how school clubs work in south Louisiana. I was in 4-H in 4th and 12th grades (that wasn't a typo...2 years only) and both were through our school.

I went to a private school through 7th grade and my whole life I went to religion class with the public school students (the Catholic school students didn't attend with us until 11th grade because they did religion in school, they just got a double dose Confirmation year). Okay....sorry--my point. I had a religion classmate that went to the public school, and he was the president of the public school's 4-H, so he was always talking about 4-H on the local radio station--announcements, etc.

They do record books, and they do project books. They don't have to turn in anything outside of the project book's requirement. There were a couple samples for sewing that she had to staple to the book, but she never had to turn in a finished project. It was on the honor system.

She never did gardening, but I can't imagine anyone going to anyone's house. The fairs here (parish or state) only focus on the animals of 4-H, including rodeo. Not sure why. But, at our parish fair, they allow the school clubs to put together a display and the clubs are given a topic or theme each year. A recent theme was "Economy of Our Parish". I remember one club doing forestry...educated me! Aly's elementary school hadn't participated the past 2 years, but that year I think our school did local businesses. Our school won something the past 2 years.

They do have parish-wide Achievement Day in which Aly has won first place both years for her project. They take a written test on the topic of their project. They also do talent, and group things like Song & Yell at the program.

Our school's 4-H fee this year is $17. That includes fees that go to the parish/state, t-shirt for Achievement Day and field trip, supplies that need to be purchased for the fair exhibit, and "appreciation" gifts. Our school requires each club to give appreciation gifts to the bus drivers, the custodians, the cafeteria workers, the secretaries, the counselor, and the librarian at different times throughout the year. The club members share ideas and vote to spend the money. The club meets once/month during school hours.

I'm still just a "parent" when it comes to the club, since I'm not a 4-H Leader/sponsor at the school (I'm a Beta Club sponsor), but I know a lot more than the typical parent since I work on a daily basis with the 4-H leader.