Initial Pack meeting for school year

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Initial Pack meeting for school year
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Tue, 09-18-2012 - 9:37pm

The initial pack meeting for our school year was tonight.  In preparation, I went to another mom's house and she and I planned out the events we would like to see and approximately what month on the calendar... then we wrote them down on slips of paper for each family to pick one... so that with such a small pack- each family will have to plan 1 event.  I also planned a song- Boom Chicka Boom and a small game.  I printed out a little puzzle page to do as kids arrived and brought colored pencils.  I also talked to the old cubmaster and asked him to be it once more since our new cubmaster is still away on vacation.

Fast forward to tonight- Cubmaster said he would meet me 30 minutes ahead of time and set up meeting... he arrived 10 minutes before pack meeting.  The mom that helped me make the calendar of events also arrived then.  At exactly 6pm (our start time), a mom walked in with her son and about a minute or two later, 2 brothers walked in with their mom's boyfriend.  That was all we got.  6 cub scouts!  It kinda blew my idea of a game so we skipped that and nobody wanted to sing so we skipped that.  The cubmaster found some balloons so we had the kids race across the room by blowing the balloons or kicking them or whatever.  I sat and talked with the 1 mom about our schedule and told her she got 1st pick of what she wanted to plan- so she picked the baseball game for next spring/summer... that doesn't really help us get very far.

So when I came home, I e-mailed the pack families about what we did and that they should expect a parent meeting after next week's den meeting so they can get papers and find out how they can help with upcoming events.  I got a few responses... one saying that their family schedule is different than last year so if her son continues with scouts it will be with a differerent pack, and one saying that her one son was just placed in a 30 day residential behavioral program so she won't be coming at all until things calm down- his brother would be our only tiger this year.  I don't know where any of the Webelos 2's were except for the 1 boy who was the cubmaster's son... no others showed up tonight.

We will see if I hear anything from any of the other families.

-Jen

PS- on a related note- my own son said that tonight's pack meeting was great because it was short, he got to see some friends and play a fun game, and he got a lollipop.

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Community Leader
Registered: 05-28-2000
Thu, 09-20-2012 - 3:02pm
For crying out loud - as an adult you must be so frustrated. (((hugs)))

What is going on with the dens? Are they all meeting now?

FWIW, if the kids had fun at least they will be willing to come back :smileyhappy:

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Fri, 09-21-2012 - 8:44am
Den meetings start Tuesday Sept 25th. I don't know what the WEB 2's have planned. All other dens will be in 1 room with me as den leader and 2 other moms to help. I guess we will have an opening and then have some theme and try to have the kids from each den at their own table and I'll have an index card or something saying what the requirement is for art for each level and the moms can help those kids do it... or we will all do a beltloop. Parents will have to do anything at home with their kid that doesn't get done from requirements for the ranks. We also have a farm field trip scheduled for a hayride/pumpkin patch/mini corn maze for a den meeting in october. I had hoped that the other parents at the pack meeting would have each picked a card that had a trip/activity scheduled on it and plan it for me for the dates we specified- such as a police station tour. The good/bad news is that our only Tiger is the younger brother of the kid (Bear) in a residential behavioural placement, so we won't be seeing him soon so I don't have to worry about any Tiger requirements. I only expect 6 kids to show up to den meetings- 2 wolf, 2 bear, 2 Web 1's.
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Registered: 05-28-2000
Mon, 09-24-2012 - 12:04pm
It sounds like you have a plan in place for the meetings. :smileyhappy:
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Tue, 09-25-2012 - 8:42pm

So, I ran my first combined Tiger/Wolf/Bear/Web1 den meeting today.  I separated the tables so there was 1 group at each end of a long table and I put out "cards" with the level written on it so they knew where to sit.  I did get an e-mail saying the 1 boy wouldn't be there because his grandma had another doctor appointment.  I ended up with 2 Bears and 2 Wolfs showing up, 2 sisters and 2 Boy Scout Den Chief Brothers as well.  Then the Web 2 den leader brought over his daughter (1st grade) and asked if she could hang out with us today.  I put all the girls at the table end I had designated for the Web 1's.  So in reality, I had 9 kids to work with and only 4 were cubs.  

What do you think about the Web 2 den leader bringing over his daughter and asking for her to hang out with us?  I know it rubbed me the wrong way for sure and I thought it was something that was out of line on his part.

Since I didn't really know who or what to expect (and I wouldn't have guessed so many girls), I didn't plan anything real specific- but we did make obstacle courses, talk about what the future den meetings would look like, and explain what a den chief is.  We also looked at the most recent boys life magazines.

-Jen

 

Oh- and the new lady from council set up another recruitment night for the same night we will be at the orchard for our hayride/pumpkin picking... guess I can't make it to the recruitment night!

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Registered: 05-28-2000
Wed, 09-26-2012 - 10:50am
I don't mind siblings at some things, but I do not expect to include siblings in the regular den meeting & I don't plan for them. I don't buy supplies, etc. It's only an issue with one family in D's den and the mom is so hit or miss about it that I never know what she is going to do. When D was a tag-a-long we also had 2 other brothers tagging - the moms and I would typically include them in a craft & snack, but then we sent them off to play while we had the meeting.

The pack includes siblings as long as they can do what we are doing.
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Wed, 09-26-2012 - 11:40am
I don't mind siblings if I know they are going to be there and it's something they can do or doesn't cost money. However, this girl didn't even have a brother in one of the dens I was leading. Her dad and brother were doing something in another room. He should have planned something for her to do with them rather than assuming I was running babysitting. It just rubbed me the wrong way. And then when I was busy talking to the person who was going to be Cubmaster and another mom was helping to time them around the obstacle course... she insisted "ladies first" which also rubbed me wrong. This is the cub's meeting- they should go first and everyone else should wait. It's not like they were too little to understand. I guess we will have to see how it goes. It will also be interesting to accommodate 2 older brothers who want to be den chief when we only have 4-6 scouts who will show up.
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Thu, 09-27-2012 - 2:03pm
I like using a den chief to teach a knot, game, or song and then to be another pair of hands. We also use them to help new scouts with bobcat trail and to help with teaching flag folding.

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Thu, 10-04-2012 - 12:53pm

I was finally able to pull together a committee meeting for last night.  Besides myself and the new Cubmaster and his wife (who will be helping me with the combined den of 6-ish kids), we also had the volunteer guy from the district (and I honestly don't know what he has done for us over the past year except listen), and I was able to get the old Cubmaster there by telling him the new Cubmaster wanted some guidance.

I'm not sure a lot of progress was made, but we did talk a bit about recharter, events, where else to look for treasurer/committee chair adults (I contacted people at our Boy Scout troop), and some other things.  I thought the meeting went pretty good considering where we are right now.  We even were to the point of being able to function if we could find someone to just put on paper as a Committee Chair.

So, on the way out- we talked to the lady who owned the pizza place where we met.  She has 2 boys in the pack and she doesn't hold a position- she's single and it's her boyfriend who has brought the kids to stuff this year.  Well, she said that she's not even sure her boys will continue because they didn't have fun last year.  I told her to have them reconsider because I was going to be their leader this year and I'm sure it would be tons more fun that what they did experience last year.  But even if they do come back- I won't see the older one til November when soccer is over.  If her kids pull out, then we will be down to 4 active kids.

So, after feeling pretty good at the end of the meeting, I was feeling bad/sad before I even got out of the building.

Today, I got a call from the Committee Chair of the Boy Scout troop... and I had to start from scratch again in explaining how we got to where we are- and yes- we do have fun activities planned and these are them- and yes- we have advertised "bring a friend events" and yes- we have reached out to council staff- and yes- the district people know this and when, and ...and... and...  So, he's stumped too about how to help us.  But at least he called me back about seeing if he could help find someone for Committee Chair for us (if we are able to recharter).

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Thu, 10-04-2012 - 1:00pm
Oh- and I forgot to mention the nasty e-mail response I got from the one Webelos 2 leader saying that the way I've been communicating to parents and doing by job is the reason our pack is falling apart and that nobody wants to do anything and that we aren't able to recruit anyone. So, besides feeling like crap because nobody likes to hear that- I responded nicely in saying that many of us tried to recruit new kids/adults and nobody was successful... and nobody else was doing anything right now to keep communication going- so if it is my fault, that's fine- but it's just another good reason to find someone to fill the roll of committee chair. And I apologized to her for having one of the agenda items as getting the two W2 leaders to be able to input their own advancement stuff (the lady never tried to get access to packmaster and the guy used to until his old computer broke and he never had his wife put it on the new computer) and be on the same page as to what the plan for their den is going to be because until last week, they were both telling people 2 different things.
Community Leader
Registered: 05-28-2000
Fri, 10-05-2012 - 1:45pm
I wouldn't even worry about the Web2 leader at this point since the Web 2 are basically gone.

Does the troop have another pack feeding it or is your pack it? If yours is the only one maybe the CC for the troop will take it this year? Filling all of those positions with just 4-6 kids is tough.

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