Daisy, Brownie, new Journey oh my!

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Daisy, Brownie, new Journey oh my!
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Sun, 09-14-2008 - 11:11am

Hello all, I have not been here in quite some time. I'm hoping someone can help answer a few questions I can't seem to get answers to here.

Here is my troop situation. I had a troop of 8 kinder age Daisy girls last year. All but 1 is returning and they all made it into 1st Grade. :) Most of them completed all but 2 of their petals. Some of these girls went to our Day Camp this summer and finished up their petals. I had 7 kinder and 1 first grader because there is a set of step sisters in my troop.

This year I'm combining with the other Daisy troop from last year. Their leader is military and will be leaving mid year, so we want to make sure the girls have a place to go (we are very short of leaders, parents don't want to help and usually try to "drop and run"). Along with these girls, I've agreed to take on some siblings, so I now have 15 girls ranging in age from Kinder to 2nd grade. I may end up with a few more, I will stop at 20 girls total, but it is so hard to say no!

I need to bridge my 2nd grader, she actually did Daisy's last year and she is more than ready to be a Brownie. My dilemma is what to do about the 1st grade girls. I've looked at the new journey books for Daisy. I sure do wish i would have had it last year, it would have been a big help and a lot of fun for my girls! I still don't see how it can be a 2 year program, but we shall see. I have 4 new Daisy's that will begin the new journey. I'm going to ask one of their parents to take the lead on the Daisy girls to help me out, otherwise I don't see how I can do both Daisy and Brownie projects at the same meeting. Ideally I would like to work with another parent to plan meetings where they do as many activities together, but when working on the journey, we split the hut in half and go from there.

Ok, here is my major question, what do we do as far as the Brownie try-it's? Are they to be done in addition to the new Journey? Do you not do them? I don't see how the Journey will be enough to keep them going for 2 or 3 years! If I bridge my Daisy's early (which they have told me I can do since this is a transition year and all) I need to keep them busy for 3 years. Are they going to take away all the try-it's next year?

I have not had my Brownie training yet and I don't know when we'll get it since hurricane Ike messed up our plans. There are so many new things this year, nut sales, cookies, being able to do over night's and such, I'm just feeling overwhelmed. I have some great parents that are willing to help, I just need to get them the information!

Ok, I'm going to finish printing off stuff for today's meeting. I know the girls will have fun, some Brownie's from another troop are coming to play games with them while I talk to the parents. :)

Jodi




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Sun, 09-14-2008 - 2:54pm

DEFINITELY you still do Try Its!


THe Journeys do not replace the old program, simply give you one more option.
You don't even have to DO the journeys at all.


At our Council kickoff meeting, it was stated that the Journeys are intended to be a 6-8 week program.
Definitely NOT your entire year.


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Registered: 03-03-2005
Sun, 09-14-2008 - 11:17pm

Thank you for your reply. So I guess the same applies to Girl Scout Daisy's also. Whew, so much to think of and do!

At least my parents meeting went well tonight, I had a great turn out and the girls had fun playing games with some Girl Scout Juniors! ;-)

Jodi




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Mon, 09-15-2008 - 8:14am

We don't even plan to do Journeys at all this year--and in your situation with different levels, I wouldn't even attempt them this year. Wait a year until you get things settled in a little!

We were told each Journeys book is intended to last one year and that if it goes well, it is intended to replace current programming, so apparently different messages are going out. Really makes you wonder what is actually planned to happen, huh?

In any case, I would recommend you stick to try-its for the Brownies, do Petals for the 1st year Daisies and maybe even the 2nd year Daisies, if they didn't do it last year. You can always get a Daisy Journeys and throw in some stuff as you see fit too :-).

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Registered: 03-03-2005
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 12:41pm

man, this is all so confusing! I don't know which way to go or what with the Girls. At the parents meeting last night they seemed very interested in the new journey's. I really like the Daisy journey, I think we're going to go ahead with that one and we'll see with the brownies. :)

thanks!
Jodi




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Registered: 03-12-2004
Mon, 09-15-2008 - 2:19pm

Our council has stated that the journeys are "in additon" and are supplemental to the regular ciric. In fact, we haven't had ANY training on journeys at all, so obviously they plan everyone to continue what they were already doing. Our shop just got the books in late august.


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Registered: 04-26-2002
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 1:00pm

I don't see why you can't overlap and start with the Daisy Journey with pretty much everyone (the older girls will have a bit more insight) and the Daisy's that are older may finish up their petals then bridge sometime mid-year like you said. Then start the Brownie Journey with those in 1st and older and have another adult at that point work with your Kindy girls on anything else. The Brownie Journey that exists now is basically the story of the Brownie elf and then goes on to find out what Brownies do...(the 3 keys) if I remember correctly. So it would be great to start Brownies with...and it would be much easier in your case to do that all at the same time with all the girls that can.

Next year, there should be another journey available for Daisys and Brownies. And you should keep doing try-it's (some of the same things are suggested as something to do in the current journey...fyi) and you should keep doing service project, crafts, songs, any field trips or other fun stuff.

I'd make it as easy on yourself as I could by trying to do mostly everything with mostly every one of the girls. The only exception I'd do is the K girls should not do the current Brownie journey so it's new and fun for them when they are 2nd grade.

And as far as the journeys, we were told...they could take about 6-8 weeks if you work only on them, but you can stretch it out over the year by taking "detours" which are basically the other try-its, crafts, field trips, celebrations...that come through the year. And you would not do more than one journey in a year once more become available for each level.

Best of luck.
Jennifer

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Thu, 09-18-2008 - 2:27pm

There will be new journeys next year on another subject for all levels, so you can safely do the journey this year and expect to have a different journey to work on in the future.

You can go ahead and do the other try-its and whatever you would normally do. But our council has told us that the patches are on their way out & will be gone by 2010. The bronze silver awards will still be around & will be tied into the journeys instead of the patches. : (

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Registered: 03-12-2004
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 3:58pm

Really?


I don't know how excited I am about that. I haven't had journey training (it's not even set up for our council yet) but so far I am not super excited by it. Isn't there just mainly like one patch and one piece of jewelry per journey? So each year they will have one badge? That doesn't seem right. I must be missing something. But, again, I haven't had the training.

siggy
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 7:34pm
I have the training next week, so I don't know too much either. I don't like change though, so I don't know that I'm too happy about all the patches going away eventually. I hope they are thinking it through. Anyway, I do know there are 3 patches tied to each journey.

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Registered: 08-25-2008
Wed, 12-10-2008 - 8:52am

I have repeatedly asked the same questions with my council about the patches... Their response was that the Journeys are to be used as a supplement, and to have the girls think of other things that coincide with the part of the journey they are working on... and that once something is an official Girl Scouts item it is NEVER completely taken away by the national council.