Direct donations - - - ?

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Direct donations - - - ?
Thu, 04-24-2003 - 1:28pm
My sisters Home Owner Association gave a troop (who's leasder is the finance officer of the HOA) $500!!! (Note: the idea of donating to the troop was never voted on but just happened) Only three of the 20 girls live in the subdivision. It just ticked my sister off!

Not only did the troop get $500 from the HOA but they went around and sold cookies as well. My sister told the mother of one of the scouts selling cookies that she thought the HOA donation was excessive and that the cookies sales we asking the home owners twice to donate to their troop.

My personal thought was the leader is walking a fine line on both the HOA board and being a GS leader. What are your thoughts? What would you do? Should my sister call council and express her concerns?

Edited 4/24/2003 1:29:32 PM ET by momsr2fun

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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 4:42pm
Sponsors are allowed.

There is a specific form to fill out for that.

However, in our council, anything over $200 must be donated to the council.

Since I've never had anyone want to donate anything to us, other than scraps of fabric or used newspapers, I'm not really sure how it is all handled.

But, it is definitely not against Girl Scout rules to accept a corporate sponsor.

Now, if there is any conflict - I would imagine it being within the homeowner's association. If it is pursued, that is where I would pursue it. It was probably not really fair of her to abuse her position and use group funds to support one specific troop over another. I would think homeowners who paid into that fund would have a legitimate complaint. The concern should be raised at a homeowner's association meeting.

But call council and have one GS troop have a complaint over another? No, I don't think that is where the conflict lies.


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Registered: 03-27-2003
Thu, 04-24-2003 - 8:00pm
In our Council, we are allowed to accept $10/girl donations (if you have 7 girls in your troop, you are allowed to accept $70 from a sponsor). I don't know if that rule is just in our Council or if it's a National policy. Sponsors can also donate jackets and other things like that.

My take on this is, if it was o.k. with the association board to donate the money to the troop, then so be it. If there was any hanky-panky with the association funds, then it's up the board members to investigate it, NOT GS Council. The only thing the Council would be involved in is if the total amount donated is over the limit allowed by Council. The fact that the association is sponsoring a troop of girls (some or all of which come from that neighborhood) is no different from a local business sponsoring a Little League team, IMHO.

Also, just to keep everything equal, the association should be willing to donate to other troops within their "jurisdiction" too, make that fact known by public announcement, and allow other troops to petition for funds. Again, however, that's entirely up to the association and their by-laws, and is no business of the Council.

So if your sister wants to complain, she should complain to the HO association, and not involve the Council. Hopefully, the troop leader has a definite plan in mind for that $500, because fund raising for fund-raising's sake is a no-no. Who knows, maybe they are saving for a trip to Europe or something - LOL!


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Registered: 03-29-2003
Fri, 04-25-2003 - 2:23pm
In my council, any donation other than a sponsorship (for which a form must be filled out and turned in to Council) that is in excess of $250 per troop MUST be approved by the Council. We are not allowed to accept monetary donations greater than $250 without Council approval, so, depending on the policy of the council in question, it could well be something that should be brought to their attention.

My advice would be to find out exactly what your council's policy is regarding cash donations and go from there.


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Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 04-25-2003 - 2:26pm
Yes, I hate to say it but she should. And if I were a resident of the neighborhood, I would raise a stink there also. DO they have that kind of money to give to every troop? They should have split their donation among all troops. UNLESS the troop in question was going to use that money for a specific project such as neighborhood beautification or an event for the neighborhood and needed seed money.

HOWEVER< cookie sales are a program opportunity, not a fund raiser (wink, wink) and just because someone gave the troop all that money, doesn't mean that the girls cant/shouldn't have the experience of selling cookies.