Military Dance

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Military Dance
Tue, 10-01-2013 - 1:51pm

I got a call from our Youth Pastor and a young boy in our youth group in the 9th grade age 15 in ROTC wants to invite my daughter whom will turn 13 in December to the Military Ball that will take place in late March at that time there will be 2 years age gap and 2 grades gap, but he wants to invite her just as friends because they hang out in the youth group at church totally innocent and I trust him. I issue is SHE IS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL!  I am crazy. I know most 9th graders enter the 9th grade at age 14 and my daughter would be 13, but I feel she would feel ackward with teens in high school.  She wouldn't know anyone other then the boy she is going with. Her Dad said NO but its the Military Ball and she looks so much older thats why the young boy was going to ask her because he thought she was 14 and in the 8th grade.  Ok tell me what you think honestly but be nice................

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Sun, 10-06-2013 - 4:05pm
Btw, (since EDIT) refuses to work for me, re hats. There is a renaissance, of sorts, for hats, especially twee hipster ones, on young men with soul patches that look like dirt on their faces. My biggest complaint about men with hats today, is that they refuse to remove them when indoors. The Duchess of Cambridge has fueled a return of women's hats. Unfortunately, they mostly look like some wayward bird, or perhaps a vehicle for very tiny aliens, had landed upon her. I am hoping this trend has a VERY short half-life, especially here, across the pond.
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Registered: 08-08-2009
Mon, 10-07-2013 - 1:33am

To any of you listening in to us two old grannies swapping stories, we’re just sharing things we have in common and laughing about things that have occurred and reminiscing about the old days and good times past and future.

Yes, a very very very full Suburban that belongs to the parents of our oldest SIL with lots of junk tied on the roof rack. Both sets of the SILs' parents are going to drive out in our Explorer and meet us a week later at Hurst’s Castle at San Simian after they spend a night on the south rim of Grand Canyon and make a run through Death Valley. And then a run through, Yosemite, San Francisco, the Redwoods, Oregon Coast, Howard Hughes’ “Spruce goose,” Columbia River Gorge, Seattle, British Columbia, Lake Louise, where they are going to leave for home via a night at Yellowstone, while we trek over to a day trip out to “Isle Royale” from Thunder Bay and then home. This last trip will be a bit of a budget buster because it is longer with more expensive stops, but manageable.

This is what happened last summer when they drove up an met us for a trip out to Martha’s vineyard and then up through New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Nova scotia through Canada to Viagra falls and then they split for home with a day at Lincoln’s Library and the arch in st. louis, while we went on over to Ford’s library, Wilson building in Chicago, and over to Lake Geneva before heading south to home. Busy but fun. The in-laws are not into the libraries and museums.

North Dakota is a very frequent state to be missed. We swung up there to see Theodor Roosevelt National Park somewhat in route to American Graffiti (Rushmore), as the token family Indian (Butch) jokingly calls it. Our token Indian liked BIG HEADS also.

Mid-teens is about where the kids lost interest in Disney World. We may not have made the last trip through there at 15 and 16 except the guys had never been. Fun trip.

Love the movie Groundhog Day!

After reading “The last Brother” about the life of Teddy Kennedy, which is a bit of a hit piece, you come away being grateful you were not born a child of Joe and Rose Kennedy. LOL As you read it you also kind of realize that we are all victims—read that kindly as the product—of our family and youth and times. Our family doesn’t intend to crowd more generations into a century than other; we’re just accident prone. LOL Mom and Dad did not plan to start a family at the Lone Star Drive-in. (I doubt the actual “deed” occurred there.) Daughter and I were each planning to start a family about five years after the weddings, but . . . . Oopse.

When it comes to those first jobs (of any type) the kids learn some very very valuable lessons about work and life. Not only does work SUCK (LOL), but everything and more that you described can only be learned by working a job. Any job is better than the kid not learning these things.

Our OBgyn tells stories from the early days about pulling babies out of the hat that were the “wrong” sex according to the older sonograms, not as likely with the newer ones, but still occurs. LOL And the couple or grandparents asking, “How can this be?” LOL As a doctor once said, “In medicine there are no absolutes or guarantees.’’ That is true of life in general.

Weddings are a personal thing and if a big one is important and they are somewhat able to afford it, why not? Ours were happy with Hawaii, but a big wedding was important to Butchman’s sister.

When it comes to evening things up with the kids. One of their jokes is, “You never get even with your parents!” I’ve heard that elsewhere and I have no clue what it means. LOL Sometimes, one kid needs more than a sibling and I think that’s ok.

Yeah I saw those hats at Will and Kate’s wedding. It was like, bet I can out do your hat. And of course, the queen and her hats. Aretha Franklin’s hat at the first inauguration of Obama. There was coffee table book a few years ago with the title of “Black Women and Their Crowns” that was about the importance of ladies hats in that culture. You see a lot of guys with baseball caps, but I don’t think of them as hatsm even though they are..

Yeah, I have had that same problem with edit.

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Mon, 10-07-2013 - 11:20am

I like the way that those little hats are called "fascinators."  I also find it interesting that when you see pics of the English society weddings where the men wear morning suits or even when they are in the wedding party, it's not like it is here in the US with matching tuxes--each guy apparently owns his own suit and wears whatever vest & tie that he has at home.  Of course the suits are all traditional black pinstripes.  

You guys are very brave to do all that traveling with little kids, but I guess the adults still outnumber the kids so you can take turns taking care of the babies.  We went to WDW a few times with the grandparents when my kids were little and that certainly made it much easier.

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Registered: 04-16-2009
Mon, 10-07-2013 - 1:45pm

Kimmy, you realise that Lake Louise is in Alberta, not B.C.?  It is not as short drive from Seattle to Lake Louise, which is not far from Calgary.  I have done it. You have to cross the Rockies, best done in daylight. 

Why not stay in B.C ? Van has to be one of the most beautiful cities in the Westerm world and I say that from experience. I have seen my share of cities. There is also Victoria and Vancouver Island.

And Thunder Bay? I first thought you do not mean Thunder Bay, Ontario but another town called that  in the US. Thunder Bay is not your typical tourist stop.  And then I realised you did. Lake Louise to Thunder Bay..not a trip I would do in a car with small kids! 

Doubling back from Lake Louise and heading to Michigan via the US route?  I hope you have scheduled enough time for this trip,  have a reliable van and that the trip is planned for mid-summer.  Bring lots of bug repellant. The Black Flies and mosquittoes are legend.

By the way, there are only 10 provinces in Canada.

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Registered: 08-08-2009
Fri, 10-11-2013 - 8:50pm

Our family vacations resemble the old Norman Rockwall post magazine cover spilt page illustration of the family leaving home looking all excited and below that a depiction of the family returning home bushed and worn out. LOL

The beginning and the tail end of our trips are usually marathons of driving with a couple of days of hard driving. Some of the places require more distance, like getting to and from Rushmore is about a three day process, but we did lots of side trips like, Custards Last Stand, Devils pile, Roosevelt National Park, Wounded Knee. Isle Royal is another one of those long slog drive situations, but the hubby and I are willing to take one for the team. They do let us live with them, you know. LOL

Also, this is going to be the last summer that the couples will have lots of freedom from full time jobs with serious demands and we will soon be into those prime years when we lie to the grandkids by saying things like. “Oh yes, WDW is grandpa and my favorite place to go on vacation.” And, “Yes, my favorite restaurant is Chuck E. Cheese too.” LOL Strangely, I think both lies are going to be true and am looking forward to a second tour of both.

So far, traveling has not been that difficult with the brothers, but this time I think will be more challenging because they will be 2 and 3½ with the bun in the oven being about 8 months when we go in July. Longer days up north. And yeah, those are some long hauls but lots to see out the windows. The scenery along the run from Nova Scotia to Viagra Falls was spectacular and the things to see were also wonderful.

The vehicles are both less than five years old, but that does remind me of the story of one of my uncles back in the late fifties. His young family was out in the middle of nowhere when they blew a rod and needed another car. The Chevy people said no to financing a car for him, the Dodge and Ford people said no also. But the Ford guy said, “Go talk to the Edsel dealership folks. Ugly, but it has the same engine and drive train as my Fords. They will finance it for anybody, so long as they have a pulse. You do have a pulse?” Sure enough they rolled out in a new Edsel with a payment book in hand.

A year or so ago, I read a book by a lady and her hubby who took a year off to see America by motor home and they had certain themes like seeing all the national parks, a baseball game at as many major league ballparks as possible, etcetera. They also spent about $80K doing it.

Because we stay at the better hotels like Motel 6 and Budget Inn, eat breakfast out of a box, lunch out of a ice chest, with dinners at the finer restaurants, like Little Caesars, Papa Johns, Costco, or a buffet house, our total budget is going to top out at about $11,000 for each of the three couples for all five trips and 90 some days on the road. Our counterpart in-laws spend a bit more when they come with us, as they are rich. LOL They do slum with us, but they also do splurge a little bit, like spending a night on the Grand Canyon rim at that old expensive hotel and likewise in Yellowstone and Yosemite. Those lesser quality inns run about $500 per night. I don’t think I could sleep in a place that expensive. LOL

Our trips have been about seeing lots of historical sights and presidential libraries, natural beauty, some major Islands like Martha’s Vineyard, Nantucket, Fort Jefferson off of Key West, Catalina, Isle Royal, observation decks like the arch, Empire State Building, CN tower, old Sears building, Stratosphere, Paris Paris Eifel Tower, Space Needle, Calgary Tower, and a few quirky things like San Simeon, Winchester house, Alcatraz Island, the Howard Hughes Spruce Goose plane, Lake Geneva in Wisconsin, Dutch themed Solvang California and Bavarian themed Leavenworth Washington.

As the lady in the book said, I think you could spend decades traviling around America without traveling the same roads and seeing different things..

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Registered: 04-16-2009
Sat, 10-12-2013 - 11:13am

Well, have fun and don't forget the sunscreen and bug spray. That's an expensive trip.

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Registered: 08-08-2009
Sat, 10-12-2013 - 6:01pm
That $11,000 budget per couple was for all five summer vacations 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and Still to come 2014 out through California, Oregon, Washington, western Canada, with the 90 days spread out between those five summers. Usually only two motel rooms, not three, at low price inns. Yes this last one is more expensive than the others as it is longer in miles and time, with more costly tickets to the sights and activities. Thanks for the heads up on bugs and sunscreen. We've encountered those elsewhere. Not fun!!! But, the togetherness of family has been fabulous!!!