Back from the awards ceremony........

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Back from the awards ceremony........
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Wed, 06-04-2003 - 1:47pm
It was kind of a bust. It was for 5th through 8th grades and the sports teams took up most of the ceremony. I really hate that. They leave the kids who do well in all subjects, study hard and behave out in the dust to make sure that every single kid who plays a sport gets recognized. The heck with the kids who are actually at school to learn. The awards for the track team took 30 minutes and the coach went on and on about what a great bunch they are. Wonder where he was when his female star got called down by a teacher 3 times, backtalked him like he was a dog, and then got sent to the office?

Anyhoo....Brooke got an award and a tshirt for being a student mentor/tutor. She also got an award for being on the A honor roll all year. I was really disappointed that her teacher didn't give out her class awards at the ceremony. Brooke was 4th in AR and will get a prize, but the teacher only recognized the top two at the ceremony. She should also be getting an award in every subject and I would have liked to have seen it.

Tomorrow I have to go back to see Tyler's ceremony. He said the PE teacher him he is getting the President's Award for Physical Fitness(but the PE teacher has been known to tell kids that in the past, then they didn't get it LOL).

Sherri



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Wed, 06-04-2003 - 7:00pm
Sherri,

I am very glad our schools decided to award sports stuff at their own awards banquet by the coach with their teams. It takes up too much time and these awards are supposed to be for academic acheivements. Our system gives a certificate to every child regardless and has even come up with special recognition and honorable mention seals to put on diplomas of kids who don`t qualify for the other seals. I wonder sometimes how many times a child should hear pomp and circumstance??? We didn`t have all these end of yr awards when I was in school but if you got one it meant something now I have even seen kids make paper airplanes out of the certificates that is how much they mean to them. And a graduation for every grade???? Sounds like things have gone a little overboard! I do think kids need to be recognized for their acheivements but if every child is getting the same thing just with different seals does it really mean as much??? Just a question I have had ever since awards day at my ds school this yr. And another thing they do is skating parties for perfect attendence while school is going on my ds cannot help it if he gets sick and misses a day. And for those fortunate or the ones that cause everyone else to get sick because they come to school when they are they get put in a drawing for a bicycle. I think it is good to have perfect attendence but how realistic is it? And in high school they even get the chance to get put in a drawing for a car!???? What do you think about this??? I just wonder if this teaches the right thing for the right thing or if it sets impossible standards and makes people feel bad because their kids were sick or if a death is in the family (yes it is counted as excused but it is still counted as an absence). Zachary got the same certificate as everyone else in his grade but only seals for the subjects he kept straight As in all year and the grades before this they give them seals for just maintaining a B. Well that is my opinion on awards days wonder how everyone else views these things?

Amy

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Wed, 06-04-2003 - 10:30pm
that stinks that sports are prized above academics

in my dd's school - they don't even have sports!

i have heard that there are awards that will be presented at graduation

and i'm hopeful that she'll win something since she's the valedictorian!

it'll be so exciting! their ceremony is 6/24
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Thu, 06-05-2003 - 6:09am
Sounds to me like Brooke did very well, and the fact that she was recognized twice is quite an honor. Way to go, Brooke!

I suppose that perhaps each area should have been limited in the amount of time they took to present their awards because if each area took 30 min., it certainly would make for a LONG ceremony. In the same respect, if it was long already, perhaps the other teachers didn't want to make it any longer by recognizing each child for each thing they accomplished throughout the year ... so instead of recognizing each subject, the overall honor roll was given (which is a huge accomplishment,) or recognizing only the TOP AR readers and not the 4-5 (I guess they had to draw a line somewhere.) But, I don't think that leaving sports out of a school-wide assembly is necessarily the right thing either. It shouldn't dominate, for sure, but the reality is that school is not all about academics. Some kids just don't do well in the reading/writing area, but all kids are generally 'talented' somehow. Do they do awards for art? music? drama? I think if you have an assembly where only the brightest kids are recognized, time and time again, it is discouraging for those kids who don't achieve the academic excellence. But school is about the whole child ... and the same kid that may not get all A's might be the track star, or the baseball pitcher, or the gymnast that led the cheerleading squad to their state championship.

As another woman posted, there is the opportunity for over-kill. If kids get certificates for everything, then they stop appreciating it. IMHO, however, I do think that schools should recognize areas, other than academics, in their awards .. Not, of course, instead of or in place of, but definitely in addition to ... because there are other aspects of 'school' that aren't academically driven.

All in all, however, it sounds like Brooke had a very good year, and I'm glad you were able to see her get the honors that she did.

Nancy

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Thu, 06-05-2003 - 7:57am
My opinion(and I have on my flame retardant underwear because it seems I sure need them on this board lately!) is that the awards should be for kids who do excellent. I don't think every single child should get one. Quite frankly if you make no effort, get in alot of trouble, etc. then you don't deserve it. If the only thing you can do well is sports, then you don't deserve an Academic award of any kind. I do think that if my dd or any other child made an A in a subject all year then the least the teacher could do is print her up a certificate for each subject. I don't think giving certificates like that at the end of the year is bad. However, every child shouldn't get one.

One teacher made up her own categories and awards. She had one for Most Improved English student, etc. Ones that really made an impact on the kid who got them and for kids who really deserved them.

I think a child like mine who has never in 6 years EVER been in trouble even one small time at school or on the bus, who not only is on the A honor roll all 6 years but goes out of her way to help others, tutors, etc. deserves something special. She does NOT deserve to have her Academic Excellence award shoved to the end of the ceremony and then get nothing more than her name called. They had 10 minutes to shove all the AE winners in before lunch. They called their names and had them pour out of the bleachers. Another teacher shoved a certificate at them and had them sit back down. They didn't even say what the award was for other than here are the winners of the Academic Excellence award. Someone finally asked and made her slow down and explain it.

I think sports has it's place. Have the teams stand up and be recognized and give out an award or two for the Most Valuable Player on each team and let that be that. Then let them have their own ceremony and dinner and talk as long as they want about the sports stuff. There is a place for sports, but my kids go to school to learn. There is WAY to much emphasis put on sports in our county and the kids who behave and do well in school are always shoved to the side. There are special dinners, special days, etc. put aside for the sports. They don't honor the academic kids in ANY way and that sucks! My dd will never play a school sport, so I guess to some she is nothing more than a scummy nerd who doesn't deserve to even have her name known.

My best friend and I were just having a "discussion" about perfect attendance last night LOL. She is BIG into pushing for it and is feeling bad because her child has to miss today and she is afraid it will mess up his perfect attendance and he won't get the trophy. I told her she has to do what she has to do and it's time he learned that perfect attendance isn't everything. Here they give a certificate for perfect and faithful attendance and that is all. I personally don't give a crap if my kids get either LOL. If they are sick they stay home. If there is a day long field trip and they don't want to, they stay home. I get tired of the parents here who insist on sending their kids to school sick just so they can get that award, then they make my kids sick. Here at the high school they award kids with perfect and faithful attendence by allowing them to NOT have to take the semester tests! I hate this policy. It doesn't matter if you learned a damn thing all year, if you were there every day you don't have to take the test. However if you have straight A's in the class but missed 8 days because you had the flu, you have to take it! Some kids get to miss an entire day of school or half a day because of the tests and them not having to take them!

As for graduations our school does Kindergarten which is really cute. They sing and recite and then get a little award. Then they have an 8th grade ceremony at night, but it's called 8th Grade Promotion. I have no idea what it's about but they do get their awards that night. Then we have the real high school graduation.

Sherri


Edited 6/5/2003 2:51:28 PM ET by cl-frugal.mom_of2

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Thu, 06-05-2003 - 11:02am
ITA with Sherri's perspective!

Perfect attendance award? In one sense, I can see recognizing it, BUT if it becomes sending kids to school sick to get an award, I don't think it should be recognized. Maybe it's best to leave it at the high school level!

Every kid could get a certificate for completing a grade, although it's not necessary, but not every kid should get an award. It diminishes the value. I do think it's terrific if the teacher has extra categories like most improved, great attitude, to recognize less than stellar students who are diligent hard workers and *deserve* recognition.

School sponsered sports should be represented, but briefly, and certainly not with more attention than academic recognition.

I do agree a lot of these things have grown over time, and it's too much too soon, and diminishes "real" graduations. I don't think there should be ceremonies every year, period! Each grade can get together, but school-wide is not necessary.

Janet

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Thu, 06-05-2003 - 2:46pm
I don't recall ever saying that sports shouldn't be allowed to participate in the awards. However those "bright" students deserve as many kudos and as much if not more praise then the star pitcher on a junior high baseball team. To be on the team you only have to maintain a C average but to be on the Honor Roll ALL year you have to put some effort into school. BIG difference to me!

There were NO awards for music and only a few for art. And the sports awards weren't for the star players. The track coach gave a certificate to EVERY member of the team and told us each and every event they participate in(some as many as 6 events), etc. There is a reason sports are called "extracirricular activities". They are extra and outside of actual school. They are NOT supposed to mean as much as the academics do, EVER. Do you have any idea how many "star" athletes are sent right on through school every year not knowing how to read or do simple math? Given the same priviledge of being promoted to the next grade as the child who studied and did well all year? It's an epidemic in this country.

Personally I don't see any reason why the school can't have an athletic dinner at the end of the year and give out their awards then. Then they could do like the girl's volleyball coach did yesterday. She gave a very short speech about how much she had enjoyed coaching this year, encouraged the girls to try out again next year and said "I have no awards to give out today because we already had our dinner and I presented them to the girls then" and then asked the team to stand up and that was it. She didn't feel the need to name each player, etc. If sports awards are necessary at the school ceremony, then honor the 8th grade players who are moving on to the high school or the ONE star player from each team.

Now before you accuse me of hating sports, let me make this clear. "I" was an athlete in middle and high school. I was a track star and an award winning cheerleader. So no, I have nothing against sports. BUT I was also an honor roll student, took college prep classes, worked part time and graduated 4th in my high school class and won a scholarship. Sports were just what they were supposed to be, fun and EXTRA!

If the school came to me and said "Brooke was the star athlete of girl's volleyball, softball and the cheerleading squad this year. She pitched more outs than anyone in our county's history, scored more points in volleyball than anyone on the team and won our school the cheerleading competition. She was also on the A honor roll the entire year, was a part of the tutor/mentor program, never got in any trouble all year. We are giving her two awards, one for sports and one for academics but can only present one at the school program. Which do you want her to get then?" I would without hesitation tell them to give her the academic one. If she is going to be made a production of and presented as a role model, then academics and good behavior is what I want everyone to see. Academics is what is going to get her somewhere,not sports. So what if she was the star volleyball player? How far is that going to get her in life? It's time kids are rewarded for learning what they need to live a good life, not for playing well.



Sherri


Edited 6/5/2003 3:16:54 PM ET by cl-frugal.mom_of2

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Thu, 06-05-2003 - 3:00pm
TOO much emphasis is put on sports and on the attendance thing nowdays. When Brooke was in the 1st grade she had the same teacher that Tyler has this year. She used to bribe the kids with ice cream parties if they would come to school! She would fuss at them if they missed a day and tell them if everyone came for 2 weeks she'd get them all ice cream! When Tyler had 5th disease and had a very itchy rash the first part of May I took him in to pick up his work one morning. He wasn't contagious anymore, but he was miserable. She got mad because I was taking him back home and made the comment "well the doctors are saying to send them with it and everyone else sent their kid" I said "yes and that is why MY kid has it now!!" and I took him home!

When attendance becomes such an issue that kids are made to feel bad if they miss a day, it's too much.

And when the third string quarterback on the junior high football team who is struggling by with a C average and never saw a minute of game time gets more time at the awards then a child who has been on the A honor roll for 6 straight years, tutors other kids, never gets in trouble, etc. something is wrong! There are tons of bright, funny kids who deserved to be honored and got not one second of time!

Sherri

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Thu, 06-05-2003 - 3:09pm
In the area we live in, sports is everything. It's nothing for a child to play every single Little League sport including two seasons of soccer, basketball, football and baseball/softball every single year from age 5 up! It's nothing for kids here to play little league basketball in this county and the next county at the same time. NOTHING for them to have a practice in both counties or a game in both counties on the same day! The businesses in our area sponsor little league, but refuse to sponsor anything like dance or baton because it's not a "sport". All their donation money is given to little league.

My dd is in a baton and pom pom dance group. They are an offical part of the 21st Century Learning program at the school. We were told that once basketball season was over WE had full use of the gym every Tuesday evening from 3:30 to 5:30. But you know what? The track team pushed in and took it over. If they wanted to practice they came in and set up on the gym floor right in the middle of our group and pushed our girls out. Or if they could get in there first, they took the whole floor and left us to practice in the cafeteria. Let me tell you, my dd is tall and twirling two batons and banging her baton into the cafeteria ceiling isn't much fun. But because track is considered an official "sport" they got to do as they pleased.

Sherri

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Thu, 06-05-2003 - 9:50pm
(never mind)


Edited 6/5/2003 10:25:21 PM ET by keke0116

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