All human being deserve respect

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All human being deserve respect
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Tue, 02-17-2009 - 4:16pm

God creates all human beings for his purpose. He has a plan and although we might not understand it, nobody has the right to take another human beings life (in or out of the womb).

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This is a holocaust.

* All human beings deserve respect * Abortion stops a beating heart :(

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Registered: 04-10-2003
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:05pm

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A. Whose god? My lord and lady are pro-choice ;-)
B. See definitions of human being below.

Australia

Division 3 - Homicide: Suicide: Concealment of Birth: Abortion

156. When a child becomes a human being A child becomes a person capable of being killed when it has completely proceeded in a living state from the body of its mother, whether it has breathed or not and whether the umbilical cord is severed or not.

Canada
(Hansard Extract)

Currently a human being is defined in section 223(1) of the Criminal Code of Canada as follows: A child becomes a human being within the meaning of this Act when it has completely proceeded, in a living state, from the body of its mother, whether or not

(a) it has breathed,
(b) it has independent circulation, or
(c) the navel string is severed.

USA
In current United States law, at the moment of birth a biological being becomes a human being. By contrast, in declaring in 1973 that abortion is a permissible medical procedure, the U.S. Supreme Court said, "The unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense." (Hardin 1982:138) The transition to the status of full humanity is viewed not as a biological fact, but as a legal or cultural fact. There is a practical aspect pointed out by Retired Supreme Court Justice Tom Clark: the moment of birth is known, but the moment of conception is speculative. "...the law deals in reality not obscurity--the known rather than the unknown. When sperm meets egg, life may eventually form, but quite often it does not. The law does not deal in speculation." (Swomley 1983:1)

UK
DISCUSSION POINT: What is a human being?

What do the Courts say about this?

The courts have asked this question in relation to the foetus and a corpse. In this context the courts are very much guided by medical opinion, and less by moral principles. The central question they ask themselves is at what stage in the process of birth does a foetus become a person, and at what stage in the process of death does a person become a corpse. Essentially the courts have decided that foetuses and corpses are not persons.

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No one has the right to subvert the rights of woman to autonomously choose the short and long term risks associated with either gestation and childbirth or abortion in her stead. She maintains the right to this choice and the privacy in which to make it.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 08-13-2007
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:10pm

"Whose god? My lord and lady are pro-choice ;-"

You have proof of that?

Your lord and your lady promotes the killing of the unborn? Where? how? why?

The God of the bible commands us to kill another human being.

Now, as far as our "laws" deciding WHO is worthy of respect and their right to life...that is a whole different ballgame. You know our laws aren't always right or you wouldn't be voting for someone who you want to change them right?

Once upon a time, blacks weren't considered human beings with rights either. Was that LAW good or bad? Did it need changing because it was wrong?

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Registered: 01-15-2008
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:15pm

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Yep, including the purpose of being born just to die.

<< He has a plan and although we might not understand it, nobody has the right to take another human beings life (in or out of the womb).

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Exactly Right! No one has the right to take my life, be it in actuality ...or in persuit of livelyhood away from me.

Glad we agree! ;)

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Registered: 05-06-2007
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:16pm

It is fine for you to not believe in abortion because of your religion, however in this country, we have freedom of religion and thus laws cannot be dictated based on religion. Also not everyone believes in the same god, which kind of makes your whole "abortion is WRRROOOOONNNNGGGG because of god" argument fall flat.

Sorry, but thanksferplayin.

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Registered: 08-13-2007
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:21pm

I didn't say that I believed abortion was wrong because of my religion. Yes, I believe that God creates all human beings for his purpose. I do not stand alone in that due to the fact that most people do believe in the same God that I do.

But, abortion is wrong because it takes the life of another. Even people who don't believe in my God agree to that. That life is alive and growing in the womb and to pay to have that life terminated is wrong in so many ways.

We don't have a right to deny a human being their rights to life because WE decide to. I know that our law (right now anyway) says we can, but, does that make it right? No.

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Registered: 08-13-2007
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:22pm

Yes, I am glad that we do agree. I do not think that anyone has the right to take your life.

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Registered: 01-15-2008
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:25pm

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..and yet you oppose abortion? I'm confused.

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Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:26pm

You might not think it is right. But that only makes it wrong for YOU. Trying to impose your morals and beliefs on everyone else, now that is truly WRONG.

I know multiple women who have terminated and it honestly the best decision for them. Who are you (general you) to say it wasn't, when you know NOTHING about their lives and/or their situations?

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Registered: 08-13-2007
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:28pm
abortion is a deliberate act to kill the life of the human being in the womb. We have millions upon millions of abortions in this country and worldwide. This is a holocaust.
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Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:32pm

"You might not think it is right. But that only makes it wrong for YOU. Trying to impose your morals and beliefs on everyone else, now that is truly WRONG."

This is interesting statement,coming out of someones mouth who wants to impose THEIR morals or lack of morals and beliefs on an innocent, human being who is alive and growing in the womb.
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"I know multiple women who have terminated and it honestly the best decision for them. Who are you (general you) to say it wasn't, when you know NOTHING about their lives and/or their situations?"

You are right, there are multiples, by the BILLIONS, who decide to abort. Your point is moot because WHY they do it is irrelevant, no more or less than a criminal sitting in jail who killed a born person or raped them.

Abortion takes the life of an innocent victim. Reasoning as to "why"has no bearing on that fact.

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