Baby born at 21 weeks old survives

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Baby born at 21 weeks old survives
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Sat, 01-23-2010 - 12:39am

Perhaps we should rethink the age in which a fetus becomes a "viable" human being?

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 1:29am
I don't get what this has to do with the abortion debate. It's great that she survived, but that doesn't mean that the average 22-week fetus has a good chance, or that they won't be affected by lifetime disabilities. But the vast majority of fetuses that are aborted at this stage (22 weeks) are terminated because there is a catastrophic anomaly (such as anencephaly) or for the mother's health. Very, very few women would abort at this late stage for convenience.




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Registered: 12-16-2009
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 4:41am

~Perhaps we should rethink the age in which a fetus becomes a "viable" human being? ~

Maybe not yet... from your post:

“She should not be recognized as a standard of care. We know that there are premature babies out there that have debilitating disabilities. In fact most of them do. Only time will tell what the impact will be.”

I'd be happy to consider discussing your OP with you further after you've answered my questions from back in October:

http://messageboards.ivillage.com/iv-psabortdeb/?msg=4976.21 .

TIA :)

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Registered: 04-10-2003
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 9:13am

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Err.....not. I always hold 26 wks (3rd trimester) to be the age of *true* viability- meaning minimal, if any, medical intervention. Just because we CAN give increasingly more invasive, intensive support doesn't mean we always should. I'd hold that a family has the right to decline life support at this stage in a pregnancy. I will certainly uphold a woman's right to electively abort at this age as well.

Congrats to the woman for lying. I certainly hope she doesn't live to regret it if this child i severely brain damaged.

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Registered: 08-27-2007
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 4:37pm

Yes. This.


I dont know about there but here they will treat babies born at 21 weeks regardless of any abortion law. When I was 19 weeks they said if I could hold off two more weeks they would send me to a place that specialized in severely preterm briths. And that was due to the babys odds of survival..not any abortion law.



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Registered: 08-27-2007
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 4:41pm

Congrats to the woman for lying. I certainly hope she doesn't live to regret it if this child i severely brain damaged


DO you think this mum will regret lying to save her child after she faught so hard to do so?


I dont know. I personally wouldnt. But having a child with brain damage is not eay I agree.



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 &n

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Registered: 11-29-2005
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 6:20pm

I don't get what this has to do with the abortion debate. It's great that she survived, but that doesn't mean that the average 22-week fetus has a good chance, or that they won't be affected by lifetime disabilities. But the vast majority of fetuses that are aborted at this stage (22 weeks) are terminated because there is a catastrophic anomaly (such as anencephaly) or for the mother's health. Very, very few women would abort at this late stage for convenience.


Exactly.

 


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Registered: 06-04-2004
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 6:49pm

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Exactly. Even when I was facing a possible procedure at 27 weeks with my daughter which might have ended her life, and was likely to require emergency c/s right then and there in any case, the hospital sent counselors to my room to discuss the potential outcomes if my daughter even survived what they wanted to do to her, and how to cope with her condition if she did survive. The odds of her going on to be a normal, healthy, functioning person after being born at 27 weeks were not good. They're much, much worse at 22.

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Registered: 06-04-2004
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 6:52pm

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My daughter had signifigant brain damage and I couldnt imagine regretting her life.

I regret her disability. But not her life.>>>

Jenna, I'm sure erosia will clarify, but I think what she meant is that the baby was even more premature than the hospital realized, due to the mother's dishonesty. That could mean that the baby is at even more risk for serious disability for being born even sooner than they thought. I don't think she meant that the woman would regret *her daughter*, rather that she would regret her actions that could have lead to the child having a poor quality of life.

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Registered: 08-27-2007
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 7:18pm
Oh okay. The way it was worded kinda threw me.

I reworded my comment a bit better also.


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 &n

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Registered: 04-10-2003
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 8:39pm

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Maybe. I had a severely brain damaged child, and when further damage was likely done via septicemia, I chose to not continue heroic measures. Had i chosen otherwise, I really think I would have. However, what I said was (exactly):
<< I certainly hope she doesn't live to regret it if this child i severely brain damaged.>>

Note the word "hope".

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I think I would have. Cause, no- it's not. And some 16 years after his death and 16 years older, I am very glad I am not facing the decision of residential care cause he's too old, too heavy and too impossible for me to care for at home.

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