The Battle!!!

iVillage Member
Registered: 02-16-2008
The Battle!!!
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Sun, 02-17-2008 - 5:17pm

Well it appears my last post really got quite a bit of discussion started. So lets see if I can get another debate fired up. Ladies you know us men we often open our mouths when we shouldnt.............oh well

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-18-2004
In reply to: theliving
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 4:30pm

>>Now I have known many many friends and family members whio have given birth and I cannot think of one that had a problem during the pregnancy or at birth. I have seen so much talk about how dangerous pregnancy is but I think if pregnancy were that dangerous nobody would ever get pregnant<<

Help ....... can ....... not ..... breathe ........ laughing ........... too ........ hard

ARE YOU SERIOUS????????

Well I must say that you either run ion very lucky circles or you are not the person people are choosing to confide their reproductive problems to.

You know NO ONE who has had a C-section? If so then your original assertion was wrong because C-sections (at least the first one a woman ever gets) are done BECAUSE there is a problem. 30 percent or pregnancies that go on to deliver end in c-sections so at least 30 percent of women have problems.

2 - 7% of women develop Gestational Diabetes
http://www.babycenter.com/0_gestational-diabetes_2058.bc

2.6% or women develop pre-eclampsia
http://chealth.canoe.ca/channel_condition_info_details.asp?disease_id=107&channel_id=2002&relation_id=3828&rot=4

0.5% of women develop placenta Preveria
http://www.healthyontario.com/ConditionDetails.aspx?disease_id=322

2% of pregnancies are ectopic (but they account for 9% of maternal deaths)
http://preconception.com/resources/articles/ectopic.htm

30-50% of pregnancies end in miscarriage (the numbers vary depending where you look)
http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/2700/2796.asp?index=9688
http://www.healthsquare.com/fgwh/wh1ch27.htm
http://www.babycenter.com/0_understanding-miscarriage_252.bc

So knowing all that I can't help but assume your claim that you dont know ONE woman who had a problem with pregnancy or birth to be a bit absurd. I would find it more likely that you know none who felt comfortable confiding their reproductive issues with you or you know very few women.




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iVillage Member
Registered: 02-12-2008
In reply to: theliving
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 4:31pm
Just to clarify, if you were 18 with no scholarship, you'd go ahead with the pregnancy??
iVillage Member
Registered: 02-04-2008
In reply to: theliving
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 4:33pm
and 1/3 of c-sections are not neccissary!

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-10-2003
In reply to: theliving
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 5:03pm

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Nope I'd be too busy working for that education. I just think it's even more foolish to waste a good scholarship and the ensuing opportunities.
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Edited 2/18/2008 5:16 pm ET by erosia_raunch
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-10-2003
In reply to: theliving
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 5:15pm

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Links? I want to know that the studies in those links actually looked at all 33% and verified that, and that it is peer-reviewed. If you haven't looked directly at MY medical records and are not a qualified OB/GYN, you sure cannot make any assumptions about mine, nor can you lump me in that group. And that really would go for every other woman's case out there.


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iVillage Member
Registered: 02-04-2008
In reply to: theliving
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 7:14pm

From elective c-sections to forced c-sections on women who have delivered c-section before - there is public outrage over the rise of 33% in c-sections.

iVillage Member
Registered: 02-12-2008
In reply to: theliving
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 7:37pm
Just to clarify, I respect your opinion.
iVillage Member
Registered: 06-03-2007
In reply to: theliving
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 8:17pm

Clearly no one here can post about your cesarean history. And it's true that in some instances, after a cesarean a womans future deliveries may have to be surgical as well (depends on the placement of the uterine incision).

It would be very hard to determine which cesareans were actually unecessary one by one, but many people consider that our population is pretty similar to Europe and many other developed nations that have cesarean section rates 10-20%. Which would suggest that many American sections are in excess of what seem to be required in other nations.

As I've heard it - the OB never gets sued for taking her to the operating room.

http://www.childbirth.org/section/CSFact.html

HOWEVER as this relates to the debate at hand, the fact is that an American woman has about a 1/3 chance of cesarean, whether or not that is justified.

iVillage Member
Registered: 06-03-2007
In reply to: theliving
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 8:18pm
Your post outlined some of the reasons I chose a homebirth. Sigh.
iVillage Member
Registered: 02-04-2008
In reply to: theliving
Mon, 02-18-2008 - 8:25pm

I guess it is the old fashioned hill billie in me, but I like things done as much so without a doctor as posible.

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