The Battle!!!

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Registered: 02-16-2008
The Battle!!!
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Sun, 02-17-2008 - 5:17pm

Well it appears my last post really got quite a bit of discussion started. So lets see if I can get another debate fired up. Ladies you know us men we often open our mouths when we shouldnt.............oh well

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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-10-2003
In reply to: theliving
Wed, 02-20-2008 - 7:59am
I dunno Misa- how far has Bush pushed Homeland Security in to our homes, LOL????

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Registered: 03-18-2004
In reply to: theliving
Wed, 02-20-2008 - 8:46am
But I am Canadian ...... That should offer some protection from his insanity ...... shouldn't it?



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Registered: 04-10-2003
In reply to: theliving
Wed, 02-20-2008 - 10:10am
Well there you go ~ you have full immunity in smacking me down, LOL!

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Registered: 05-11-2006
In reply to: theliving
Thu, 02-21-2008 - 1:46pm

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Registered: 03-20-2005
In reply to: theliving
Thu, 02-21-2008 - 2:44pm

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Registered: 01-15-2007
In reply to: theliving
Thu, 02-21-2008 - 3:05pm

im glad you posted this. I think if women are going to be given the right to choose then why arent men (i dont care that the woman is the one that has to be pregnant... woman act like being pregnant is so awful. i have 2 kids and my pregnancys both required bedrest and still i dont think being pregnant was hard... ppl treat you wonderfuly, you look beautiful, and you can eat without feeling guilty!lol). So many wonderful men are out there who want their babies, but because a woman doesnt want to accept responsability for her actions the men have their child killed with NO say. there need to be laws to protect fathers too... well what

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Registered: 04-15-2006
In reply to: theliving
Thu, 02-21-2008 - 3:29pm

"(i dont care that the woman is the one that has to be pregnant... woman act like being pregnant is so awful. i have 2 kids and my pregnancys both required bedrest and still i dont think being pregnant was hard... ppl treat you wonderfuly, you look beautiful, and you can eat without feeling guilty!lol)."


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Registered: 01-07-2007
In reply to: theliving
Thu, 02-21-2008 - 3:34pm

So you believe a woman should be forced to gestate a pregnancy because the man involved decides he wants to be a father?


What happens if a law under those circumstances comes to fruition,

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Registered: 03-26-2003
In reply to: theliving
Thu, 02-21-2008 - 3:37pm

>I think if women are going to be given the right to choose then why arent men<


Because abortion is birth control; this "male abortion" option affects children.


>So many wonderful men are out there who want their babies, but because a woman doesnt want to accept responsability for her actions the men have their child killed with NO say.<


Does a man get a say in which birth control methods a woman uses? Nope. And abortion is a form of birth control.


I will agree that men have fewer birth control options, but I do place a large part of that blame on lack of pressure on the medical industry to provide more options to men.

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Sandy
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Registered: 06-17-2007
In reply to: theliving
Thu, 02-21-2008 - 4:13pm

"What happens if a law under those circumstances comes to fruition, and the woman's doctor tells her there is a chance she will suffer irreperable damage if she continues the pregnancy and gives birth but yet the father refuses to allow the woman the option to terminate?"

I've got a similar situation for you, back from when I was 13. I was sleeping over at a friend's house when this happened. She lived near the hospital, so we heard the police sirens all night. Here's a link to the story, but it's short so I'll fill in the gaps:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE2DE1538F930A1575AC0A967958260&sec=&spon=

Richard Worthington's wife had been told by her OB that the next pregnancy would likely kill her. She had already had eight children and had increasing problems with pre-eclampsia during each pregnancy. There are conflicting accounts that Worthington had given consent for his wife to have this procedure (not an uncommon request in Utah), and some say that he had not given consent.

Anyway, he held a maternity ward hostage one night looking to kill the OB who had performed the procedure on his wife. His reasoning (I remember it well, because it frightened me so much) was that there were little angels in heaven still waiting to come down and be part of his family, and the OB had stopped their arrival. So he would have sacrificed his wife to have more children, had he been given the opportunity. The doctor was unharmed, but Worthington shot and killed a nurse during the standoff.

He was obviously sent to prison after this catastrophe, where he later committed suicide.




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