A better explanation

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Registered: 02-04-2008
A better explanation
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Tue, 03-18-2008 - 11:32am

K, gonna try to explain this with a story - parable of sorts.


When I was less than 1 year old, so the story goes, my mother was walking me around my grandfather's farm in Nachatoches Louisianna.

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Tue, 03-18-2008 - 12:37pm
We understand your logic, but it is still inconsistent. Most who have engaged you in this particular debate have said that they don't believe the z/e/f is participating "in the commission of a crime," as you do. As such, it remains your opinion, and an arbitrary decision. What we question is your reserving the right to make an arbitrary decision and denying such right to anyone else.




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Tue, 03-18-2008 - 12:40pm

"Does the unborn have human rights equal to the mothers...?"


This question is the crux of the entire issue. Two individuals cannot have equal rights over the same body. Therefore, when their interests are at odds, the rights of the born, fully potentiated person must take precedence.


It is that simple.

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Registered: 02-04-2008
Tue, 03-18-2008 - 12:45pm

Ever hear the term, can't see the forest for the trees?

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Registered: 02-04-2008
Tue, 03-18-2008 - 12:47pm

If two people cannot have rights over the same body - why does the woman have the right to tear apart, scrape out, dispose of the independant body of the unborn?

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Registered: 11-04-2004
Tue, 03-18-2008 - 1:01pm

"If two people cannot have rights over the same body - why does the woman have the right to tear apart, scrape out, dispose of the independant body of the unborn?"


The fetus' body is not independent. It is indeed completely dependent on the body of the pregnant woman for everything. The "same body" to which I refer is the body of the pregnant woman.

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Registered: 02-04-2008
Tue, 03-18-2008 - 1:23pm
My born children are dependant upon my body still.

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Registered: 03-06-2008
Tue, 03-18-2008 - 1:40pm

It is different. It is more of an emotional dependence instead of a life or death one.


My son is breastfed. He is a booby addict. But if I died tomorrow would he die because he can no longer have my milk? No he would not be happy but my husband and other family would be able to take care of him.

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Registered: 11-04-2004
Tue, 03-18-2008 - 1:41pm

"My born children are dependant upon my body still."


You and your born children have a host-parasite relationship whereby their oxygenation, blood supply, and total nutrition are provided by your body and can be provided by no other means?


It is my impression that you are being purposely obtuse.

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Tue, 03-18-2008 - 1:42pm

"When advocating the entire umbrella of abortion reasons, it may be pretty darn hard to back out into a clearing to see a different perspective in regards to a TRAGIC situation in which one who holds a different view on human life may have."

Why would it be necessary to look at one particular situation with more careful examination when I already agree with you what the result should be (i.e. the right of a raped woman to have an abortion should she get pregnant as a result of the rape)?

"The unborn in not 'raping' in technical terms, the mother - but is a physical CONTINUATION of the rape"

Just as forcing a pregnant abused woman to continue the pregnancy is a physical continuation of the abuse she suffered. You may see my opinion here as arbitrary, but it proves that yours is too. The inconsistency lies in your insistence that it's not arbitrary in the case of rape, but totally unnecessary in the case of abuse. The hypocrisy lies in your criticism of people like me for "advocating the entire umbrella of abortion reasons," when you reserve the right to pick and choose which ones are acceptable for women to have an abortion based upon.




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Registered: 06-17-2007
Tue, 03-18-2008 - 1:43pm
Yeah, you may not have noticed my post to Misa where I said that she was calling one of your arguments hypocritical when it was merely inconsistent.




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