Clinic protesters.

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Clinic protesters.
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Tue, 06-26-2007 - 7:21pm
People protest outside of clinics. What should be done? Discuss.

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Registered: 06-03-2007
Tue, 06-26-2007 - 7:30pm

So, I see that there's a need to protect their right to express their opinion. For sure. But this is still something that needs to be moderated. I mean, the trauma of that picket line just came up again over on the abortion support board. And there are still frequent acts of violence (which I know the vast majority of prolifers don't condone) so we need to have some kind of protection going. And it's still being fomented: http://www.al.com/newsflash/regional/index.ssf?/base/news-29/1181854372287800.xml&storylist=alabamanews

Check out this really frightening table from religioustolerance, tabulating all the fear tactics from 1989 to 2004.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm

Here's the relevant law as it stands:
From Guttmacher.org While the handful of murders of abortion doctors and clinic staff have attracted much media attention, family planning clinics report that they frequently experience other serious forms of antiabortion violence. These include bombings, arson and vandalism, as well as violent protests and blockades. In 1994, the federal government enacted the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act, which prohibits intentional property damage and the use of “force or threat of force or...physical obstruction” to “injure, intimidate or interfere with” someone entering a health care facility. States have taken two approaches designed to protect abortion providers. Some states prohibit specific activities, while others have created floating “bubble zones” of several feet around a person who is within a specific distance of a clinic; protesters are prohibited from crossing into that “bubble zone” without the person’s consent.
http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/spibs/spib_PAC.pdf

What should be done? Is it enough just prosecute these guys? What about the guy in Illinois that's videotaping women entering and leaving, and posting it online - should he be allowed to do that? Where should the line be drawn? Do we need more laws?




Edited 6/26/2007 7:45 pm ET by wobitnobby
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Tue, 06-26-2007 - 7:36pm

In america you have the right to protest. it's a freedom granted by our constitution. Nothing should EVER be done to remove that freedom. HOWEVER I do believe that protesters don't have a right to HARASS others. There is a difference between say....standing outside an abortion clinic with a sign and saying " save the baby humans" &

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Tue, 06-26-2007 - 7:43pm

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Tue, 06-26-2007 - 8:15pm

I think this would depend on the individual protesters. I don't support the ones who shout things like "MURDERER" or "SLUT" at the women, but I do know that some Christian groups go pray outside the clinics and invite the women to pray with them. I wouldn't see that as a problem.

Personally I've driven past the abortion clinic here everyday and never seen a single protester out there. I'm curious as to if anyone has actually had an experience with one and what it was like.

Ella Grayce

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Tue, 06-26-2007 - 9:18pm

I have had experience with protesters.

When I was entering the clinic for my termination, I was there very early in the morning, as my appt was one of the first ones. I was bombarded by protesters who were no more than 3 inches from my face, spewing propaganda about a "baby" who "loved me" inside of me. They also informed me that I was a killer and I would be depressed for the rest of my life. Only after 4 times of asking them to leave me alone, did they. They walked away mumbling under their breath, but I don't know what they were saying.

On the way out, the protesters that had been there in the morning were gone. About 10 feet down the street, an older man sat holding pro-life posters, not bothering a soul.

I have no problem with peaceful protesters. I do however have a huge problem with the type of protesters that harass women.

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Tue, 06-26-2007 - 9:58pm

I'm sorry for that experience... That sounds awful. Those people make me so mad! They give all Pro-lifers a bad name. And do they really think getting up in anyone's face is going to change their mind?? If anything that would make me want to go through with it more and show them they have no control.

Although I'm pro-life I have never sat outside a clinic. I am not sure how effective it is, but I'd be willing to try it sometime. I'm so shy though I wouldn't even want to approach the women directly.

Ella Grayce

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Tue, 06-26-2007 - 10:32pm
I personally only think it's a waste of time...If you want to prevent abortions, have better sex ED and more help for single/young moms. Standing there with your stupid sign doesn't do anything...
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Tue, 06-26-2007 - 11:23pm
I could not agree more with what you wrote.
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Wed, 06-27-2007 - 9:09am

I've had years of experience with protestors because of my volunteer work.

We had a break in at the clinic where they chained themselves to furniture and equipment.

They would repeatedly tresspass on clinic property and the parking lot. They'd surround a car with a patient inside and scream at her.

They'd stalk me and other clinic employees and volunteers. They mobbed my 5 year old son at the school bus stop, screaming at him that his mommy was a baby killer.

I strongly believe in first ammendment rights. But I think those protesters crossed the line.


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Wed, 06-27-2007 - 9:21am

But then they'd have to condone pg, and you know pg is retribution for sin (even if you ARE married and have kids and can't have another).

I just found out that a pro-life group tried to stop a law that would license the women who deliver babies at womens' homes in Missouri, saying it would lead to more abortions???? No offense to the PL people on here, but some of those people are *crazy*! There is no limit to their need to control a woman's healthcare decisions.

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