Confused??

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Registered: 10-12-2006
Confused??
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Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:00pm

On the news recently a man murdered his pregnant wife...which we all think is horrific right? He is being charged with TWO counts of second degree murder. What confuses me is that in this case the baby is considered a human being but when is comes to abortion the baby is nothing but a blob that the mother has the right to have suctioned out,if she so chooses.....does this father not have the right to choose aswell?? Now tell me how ridiculus that sounds? murder is murder.
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Registered: 05-06-2007
In reply to: funkymommy2
Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:11pm
The reason he was charged with murder is because the baby was viable. A 5 week old embryo is not viable. Thus, your premise of "murder is murder" is incorrect.

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Registered: 06-03-2007
In reply to: funkymommy2
Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:11pm
The "blob of cells" as you put it carries the moral weight given to it by the woman carrying it. It is valuable because of its potential. If the woman is intending to carry to term, then I'm all about throwing the book at the violent barbarian and hitting him with as much as we can.
However, I suck at all that complicated legal precedent stuff - I would never want to be a lawyer - so I realize that there may be implications that others care to argue in that but it doesn't complicate it for me one whit.
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Registered: 08-18-2006
In reply to: funkymommy2
Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:17pm
The difference for me is this was a wanted viable fetus who was killed only becaus ethe mother was....Having an abortion in almost all cases stops a nonviable e/f from becoming a viable fetus
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Registered: 03-08-2007
In reply to: funkymommy2
Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:18pm

Yeah I agree... Especially since you can be charged with a second murder despite how young the fetus is/was, or even before when it's still an embryo..

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Registered: 03-08-2007
In reply to: funkymommy2
Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:19pm

http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=135873

In some states you can be charged with a second murder from any stage in pregnancy.

Ella Grayce

Lilypie1st Birthday Ticker
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Registered: 05-06-2007
In reply to: funkymommy2
Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:28pm

Not in this case, which is what I was responding to, because that is what was posted about.

"Ohio law allows a murder charge against someone accused of killing a fetus that would have been able to live outside the womb."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19387533/

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Registered: 03-08-2007
In reply to: funkymommy2
Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:30pm

I didn't realize we were talking about the Ohio case in particular.

But that doesn't discredit the fact that in some states you can be charged with two murders at any stage in pregnancy.

Ella Grayce

Lilypie1st Birthday Ticker
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Registered: 10-12-2006
In reply to: funkymommy2
Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:33pm
Okay,so what about late term abortion? you all agree with abortion as long as it's early? Remember that "unviable fetus" will be "viable" if you let it be,the only reason it's "unviable"is because YOU'RE stopping it from being so!
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Registered: 01-07-2007
In reply to: funkymommy2
Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:36pm

What???

So I am responsible if my body rejects an embryo or a fetus, a miscarriage???

How many non-medically related late term abortions happen in this country? Where is the cut off for viability? Who gets to decide that?

As soon as someone figures out how to take the unwanted 6 week old embryo from my body and have it remain viable until *birth* I'll be so happy to drop it off on your doorstep.

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Registered: 05-06-2007
In reply to: funkymommy2
Wed, 06-27-2007 - 3:38pm
Perfectly stated.

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