Do you think late abortions are right?

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Registered: 02-24-2005
Do you think late abortions are right?
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Wed, 10-01-2008 - 12:58pm

So I sit here at work and I am mortified because I am working on a Planned Parenthood account (and I really dont want to) and the number of abortions performed is staggering.

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Registered: 11-29-2005
Sun, 10-12-2008 - 6:44pm

If a woman doesn't want to gestate a pregnancy, then don't get pregnant.


Maybe someday, in the distant future, when there is a method of birth control which is 100% effective, 100% safe, affordable, available, and accessible for all women, we can talk about "don't get pregnant" as a viable alternative.


Unfortunately, that day is not here yet.

 


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Registered: 01-15-2008
Sun, 10-12-2008 - 7:02pm

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There are lots of reasons abortion can be self defense and even protective to the fetus/baby.


A mother shouldn't have to carry a pregnancy to term that might kill her.


Nor should a mother have to carry to term the child convieved in an abusive relationship. I would rather lovingly see a mother abort her 10 week fetus then have the same child be born and have thier father shake them to death....and there are many MANY cases where fathers have gotten unmonitored visits of thier child because they had only hurt the MOTHER and not the child...until it was too late. One of the moms in my EC/PG lost her twins because she left for work one day and the father killed them and hid the bodies under his BED!! Talk about horrific and cruel and MURDER!! A woman knows her circumstances better then *you* do.


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why do you have the right to insist a child live thier entire life in pain? would you really feel comfortable with the man that raped you having unmonitored visits with your child? That happens all the time sad to say. I know I wouldn't

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 10-12-2008 - 7:25pm

>If a woman doesn't want to gestate a pregnancy, then don't get pregnant.<


There are only 3 100% effective ways to prevent pregnancy:


1. Hysterectomy. Removal of the uterus is a drastic way to have effective birth control, I think. And most doctors do not want to perform these on healthy women.


2. Oopherectomy. Removal of the ovaries is an even more drastic way to have effective birth control. It brings on menopause too. Very very unhealthy for a woman who does not otherwise need this surgery.


3. Don't have sex. All fine and good to advise women not to have sex, unless of course they're married. In most states refusing to have sex for any reason other that a doctor's advisory is grounds for divorce. I don't know about your situation, but my husband would not stay long if I said "Honey, we're just not gonna have sex 'til I reach menopause in 10-15 years."


All other forms, including surgical sterilization, have a failure rate. Heck, I've known women IRL who've had tubal ligations who've become pregnant.


>Helplessness is not a good reason for allowing murder.<


Murder is a legal term. Abortion has yet to be classified as murder. I will work hard to ensure it doesn't.

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Registered: 04-10-2003
Sun, 10-12-2008 - 8:30pm

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Inherent and unique short and long term risks.

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Because a woman may be vehemently unwilling to continue gestating the fetal by-product of a violent crime perpetrated upon her person. I would never permit a product of rape to be nourished and brought to fruition by my own body. I would refuse to take the risk. And carve it out myself if need be. I would never bear the progeny of a rapist.

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Registered: 04-10-2003
Sun, 10-12-2008 - 8:32pm

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And many use birth control. But no birth control is 100% efficacious. Even the tubal ligation I had confers a 6 in a thousand risk of failure. And abstinence will NEVER be optional for me.

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O no- not at ALL!~ But abortion doesn't kill a baby. It kills a zygote, embryo or fetus!

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Then don't have an abortion.

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Registered: 03-23-2008
Sun, 10-12-2008 - 10:06pm

It's not just tissue. It's a baby.


Who actually says it's "just tissue?" Technically, everyone is made up of tissue, born and unborn. But I don't think anyone thinks a z/e/f is "just tissue."


Now, for those who have had abortions, and feel regret, my heart goes out to those people. We all make some terrible choices in life. I have no judgment for these women.


Does this mean you do feel judgment for women who haven't regretted their abortions?


If abortion is legal, than infanticide should be legal too.


Um, I don't think so. Abortion is killing a z/e/f that has no legal rights. Infanticide is killing a born person with legal rights, which is actually murder. And why would you just equate abortion with infanticide? If you truly believe that abortion is murder, why wouldn't you just say "If abortion is legal, then murder should be legal too"?


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Registered: 08-24-2008
Mon, 10-13-2008 - 12:15am

~However, I would not sugar coat what I had done. It's not just tissue. It's a baby.~


Um.. are you under the impression that I sugar coated what I went through?

 

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Registered: 08-24-2008
Mon, 10-13-2008 - 12:19am

~If a woman doesn't want to gestate a pregnancy, then don't get pregnant.~


Is that what you'd say to the theoretical molested 9 year old in your post to me?

 

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Registered: 10-14-2007
Thu, 10-16-2008 - 3:04pm

Well, a lot of people don't realize they are pregnant until late into the first trimester. So if someone finds out at 9-10 weeks, it could easily take them another month to decide what they want to do. I wonder what the percent of abortions is compared to percent of pregnancies carried out. I wonder if there are a lot of women who, by that point, have felt the baby move or realized it was there in some other way and choose to keep it. But these things aren't written down in numbers. It is very easy to jump to conclusions about it all based on some numbers. But there is so much more content and context that has to be considered.

I'm no abortion fan. But I am not going to sit here and give myself the power to tell another woman what choice to make, or when.




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Registered: 10-14-2007
Thu, 10-16-2008 - 3:07pm
Why do people feel so worked up about the "murder" of babies who can't even survive on their own but have no problems with our country killing babies that are already alive? I don't understand this.



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