Genetic Testing and choice

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Registered: 01-11-2008
Genetic Testing and choice
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Sat, 01-26-2008 - 9:51pm

With genetic testing and posible engineering seeming more and more the reality of our near future, many believe that screening/engineering for disease, sexual orientation and gender will become common place.

 "Pascal's Wager," which states that believing in God costs you nothing if you're wrong, and wins you everything if you're right.

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Registered: 04-29-2005
Mon, 01-28-2008 - 11:07am



Thank you for the name of the article but without paying, I am not able to access the study. Without seeing it, I'm not sure how much weight to give a study that is almost 26 years old.


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Registered: 05-06-2007
Mon, 01-28-2008 - 11:26am

"I don't think so. There are many OB/GYN that do not prescribe BC or provide abortions even though they are qualified to do so."

I have never heard of an OB/GYN who refused to dispense BC. Would you be able to provide some evidence of this? I'd be very interested to learn more.

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&nbs

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Registered: 03-08-2007
Mon, 01-28-2008 - 11:39am

"What I think you were assuming was that a provider was in general refusing PL patients, which I would not support and have never heard of."


Okay we are on the same page now.

Ella Grayce

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Mon, 01-28-2008 - 12:03pm

If you can provide any kind of evidence that is more recent, we can retire that study. Until then, it stands. As the entire discussion rooted from anecdote of a deeply bizarre scenario and progressed to the theoretical "would/should", I also feel it's easier for it to remain rooted on anecdote.

The pharmacist provides a weak comparison because in medicine we must always keep in mind whether the situation is emergent (must be treated extremely soon), urgent (must be treated soon), or chronic. The timeframe over which a medical situation is evolving always affects treatment, because if the situation allows for time for a more careful, thorough workup to assess potential complications, it can get on toward malpractice to not take that time. The more invasive the treatment, the more responsibility to investigate. Thus, for a very time sensitive and safe treatment such as MAP one has no excuse for delay. With outpatient surgery that can withstand a week's delay, it becomes very irresponsible to proceed without following up any red flag. Signs that a patient is considering retracting their consent should be a good reason to delay an abortion.

If, in the situation where a patient on the table presenting for removal of hemorrhoids aggressively told a surgeon that they were a murderer, I think they would be sent home with their anus untouched. Since unwanted pregnancy is more time sensitive than hemorrhoids, it would be appropriate to provide more assistance and followup helping that woman repeat counseling and get clear on whether she really wants the abortion, and isn't exhibiting psychotic signs, and then find a provider to work with her.

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Mon, 01-28-2008 - 12:04pm


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Registered: 02-15-2005
Mon, 01-28-2008 - 12:12pm
There's actually an OB-GYN in my area who won't prescribe BC. She's affiliated with the local RCC run hospital and will only address NFP with her patients.


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Registered: 05-06-2007
Mon, 01-28-2008 - 12:26pm
Wow. After reading the links that Marie-p posted and your post, I'm in shock. I can't believe that this sort of thing occurs. Zoinks. I'm glad my OB/GYN is a tad more realistic when it comes to this sort of thing.

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&nbs

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Registered: 04-29-2005
Mon, 01-28-2008 - 12:27pm



Again, I disagree. Just because a study isn't readily available, doesn't mean that one from 1982 is still relevant to what is going on in 2008.

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Registered: 02-15-2005
Mon, 01-28-2008 - 12:37pm
I know - I can't imagine choosing to go to a doctor that doesn't have my best interests at heart, but her own agenda and dogma instead. Blech.


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Registered: 06-03-2007
Mon, 01-28-2008 - 1:07pm
I totally agree. It's awful to think of a woman driven to the place where she feels she must choose abortion as the lesser of evil options, despite having strong feelings that it is wrong. I agree that it's not hypocrisy, but desperation. (I think it leans toward hypocrisy when that woman continues, after her abortion, to focus on measures to criminalize instead of prevent).