I get so tired

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I get so tired
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Fri, 08-31-2007 - 7:05pm
I get sooo tired of hearing about this abortion issue. I don't want to start anything, I'm just speaking from within my heart. And I'm speaking for those children, cause they can't speak for themselves. I am totally against abortion. Those children didn't ask to be conceived. We lay up and have this children. We should take responsibility for our actions. We should have no choice but to have this children. We need to shut down these abortion clinics. The only way we should be able to get an abortion is if it is a life threating situation. Then it's understandable. Whey are our women choosing to KILL their children. The world is truly coming to an end. But in the end it is us who has to answer to God. He will have the final word. And punish all who harm his angels, because that's what children are,"Angels". So I tell these women who believe in abortion and who go thruough them, think about if your mother aborted you. Think about what that child could do for this world, think about if that child may be the one who cures cancer, or aids, or even all life threatening deseases. I pray for those children. And also if those women if you are not ready to raise that child. Let someone who can't have children adopt that baby. There are so many unfortunate women in the world who can not have babies. The best thing you could do for your child is give it a home. Killing your baby is not the answer. You don't even have to leave the hospital with that child, just leave it there and they will find that child a home. I'm not fussing at those who choose to do it, I'm just asking you to look inside of your heart and think about that child. Listen to Nick Cannons song "Can I Live" that's a beautiful song, and just might change your mind. Because Nick Cannon was almost aborted, because his mom was young when she found out she was pregnant. She wasn't ready to have a child. But she let him live and he's know famous.

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Registered: 10-06-2010
In reply to: mrs_bruce
Fri, 08-31-2007 - 8:16pm

"I get sooo tired of hearing about this abortion issue. I don't want to start anything, I'm just speaking from within my heart."

Then why are you on an abortion debate board?

"The world is truly coming to an end. But in the end it is us who has to answer to God."
I do not believe in your God, your God does not exist to me and therefore I will not answer to him.

"So I tell these women who believe in abortion and who go thruough them, think about if your mother aborted you"

If she had I would not have been here to ever know who my "mother" was. I am glad I was a wanted and loved child, had my mother wanted to have an abortion I would have rather that than she have a child she did not want. My mother was a non wanted child, her mother (my grandmother) had told us both if she could do it again she would have aborted my mother. Being unwanted child meant my mother was beaten and mistreated all her life. On the other hand me being wanted set me up for having loving wonderful parents.

"There are so many unfortunate women in the world who can not have babies. "
I am sorry but I am not a baby factory for any other women. There is also women who need a heart, lung, kidney, bone marrow, blood and other things, I feel bad for them but I am not responsible for them. There are also so many children waiting to be adopted, until we have a shortage of babies I will abort any child I become pregnant with.

"I'm not fussing at those who choose to do it, I'm just asking you to look inside of your heart and think about that child."

I am which is why if I got pregnant I would have an abortion.

"But she let him live and he's know famous."
Good for him, he also could have ended up being a serial killer.

"Think about what that child could do for this world, think about if that child may be the one who cures cancer, or aids, or even all life threatening deseases."

Think that maybe the child will murder a innocent person, become a gang member, drug pusher, rapist, terrorist. LIfe cannot be lived by what if's.

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Registered: 07-13-2007
In reply to: mrs_bruce
Fri, 08-31-2007 - 10:55pm

>>"The world is truly coming to an end. But in the end it is us who has to answer to God."
I do not believe in your God, your God does not exist to me and therefore I will not answer to him.<<

Either God does exist or God does not exist.
The truth is that He does exist, and you will have to answer to Him whether you believe that or not.

By the way, I think it's commendable that this person has jumped into the abortion debate even though she's tired of it. Not everyone in this world bases their actions on what they want to do, feel like doing, etc... some people do what they should do, whether or not it's what they like.

P.S. Why are YOU here at this abortion debate board? Seriously.

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Registered: 05-06-2007
In reply to: mrs_bruce
Fri, 08-31-2007 - 11:33pm
The OP isn't debating. She's preaching. There's a difference.

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Registered: 10-06-2010
In reply to: mrs_bruce
Sat, 09-01-2007 - 8:15am

"Either God does exist or God does not exist.
The truth is that He does exist, and you will have to answer to Him whether you believe that or not."

Just because you say God exists does not make it true, sorry. Can you prove to me he exists? The Bible doesn't count I already read that and still do not believe him. If he exists I'll give you my address, tell him to come by and speak to me.

"P.S. Why are YOU here at this abortion debate board? Seriously."

If you look at the title of the board, you would figure that out. :)




Edited 9/1/2007 8:15 am ET by seirith
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Registered: 03-07-2007
In reply to: mrs_bruce
Sat, 09-01-2007 - 10:08am

If you're tired of hearing about abortion and "don't want to start anything" then I really have to wonder why you are posting here in the first place. This is specifically the Abortion Debate board which is pretty clearly a) about abortion and b) a place where a post is expected to elicit responses.

Who made you judge and jury? Thanks for sharing your opinion but it simply IS your opinion and applies only to you and your reproductive choices. Abortion is one way of taking responsibility, it simply isn't one you like.

"Whey are our women choosing to KILL their children" Abortion ends a developing pregnancy, usually in the first trimester, so there are no actual "children" being killed.

The world will end eventually, yes. That has nothing to do with the topic at hand, however.

Not everyone believes in God so that is not relevant here. Also, you are NOT God, you are not omniscient so why you would presume to know what punishment may or may not be meted out is highly arrogant. Then again, so is the notion that any stranger could know what the best solution is for every woman's unplanned pregnancy. Only the woman can make that decision.

If my mother had aborted me, I never would have known. That's kind of a silly question. And no woman is obligated to breed for another. That's barbaric. If she chooses to put the eventual child up for adoption that's wonderful but to be expected to is absurd. Women are people, not incubators or brood mares.

We don't know WHAT type of person any z/e/f will eventually become. They could be mass murderers for all we know. The whole "they could cure cancer" thing is ridiculous. How about we do more to take care of actual children before invading the privacy and physical autonomy of women to "save" potential children?

Finally, Nick Cannon can sing about whatever he wants but truly, no, I was not all that impressed. A song that addressed men his age sleeping around with little thought for birth control...or one that talked about how a man takes responsibility for his children, THAT would have shown maturity and been worthy of respect. Instead, it was a typical "women are mean and selfish for aborting" whine. There's nothing beautiful in that. Who cares if he's famous? Again, it's simply his opinion.

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Registered: 07-13-2007
In reply to: mrs_bruce
Sat, 09-01-2007 - 1:13pm

I can't prove that God exists.

As you have said, just because I believe in God, does not mean that he does exist.
Along the same line, just because you do not believe in God, does not mean that he does not exist.
He does or he doesn't. One of us is right, and one of us is wrong. We can't both be right. He cannot exist and not exist at the same time. There is TRUTH, whether anyone believes in it or not.

I am aware of the fact that MY BELIEFS do not call God into existence. Rather, his existence and revelation of himself have brought me to belief. He has already revealed himself to you too, to an extent, but you have not believed. And obviously that too is my belief and not yours... but again, one of us is right and one of us is wrong. There is no relativity here.

Anyway, I know you are here to debate abortion, but my question is why are you here to debate abortion?

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Registered: 06-03-2007
In reply to: mrs_bruce
Sat, 09-01-2007 - 3:02pm

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That's interesting. I will start a thread inviting posters to share the moment or occasion that makes them feel passionate about this controversy, as I think that pretzel is the only poster here whose story I specifically know of. And it's interesting.

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Registered: 08-31-2004
In reply to: mrs_bruce
Mon, 09-03-2007 - 10:39am

Or God exists but has no interest in us. Or God exists but not in any form we can imagine. Or God exists but is nearly powerless. There are lots of choices.

Really? Do you happen to have any evidence of that?

Question not directed at me, but I pop in here from time to time to wave the flag for freedom and bodily autonomy.

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Registered: 07-13-2007
In reply to: mrs_bruce
Mon, 09-03-2007 - 12:58pm

Surely we could think up a million+ possibilities in our minds as to what type of god or gods may or may not exist. But just because there are limitless possibilities does not mean there are limitless "realities." There is one reality. There is one truth.

Hmmmm... I'd like to bring to light just one of those possibilities.

LOL MAYBE there is one God, all-powerful, all-knowing, entirely righteous, and entirely just. Maybe that God created and loves us, and maybe he has given us limited but sufficient knowledge of him... and maybe all of those that believe and live for him will live forever, and those who do not believe and do not follow will not. MAYBE! It can't be proven, nor can any of the other possibilities be proven. However, there is OUTSTANDING evidence (not PROOF, obviously) that this is, in fact, REALITY. If it IS the case, then all of the people who demand proof in order to believe are in trouble. Interestingly, this God I am speaking of requires of us something called FAITH... and what good would that faith be if proof were provided first?

No one HAS to accept the fact that that is the REALITY of the universe, but we are subject to the REALITY of the universe despite our beliefs. So it's wise to be in search of the true truth.

That's all I'm saying! It's just funny to me when people say "Well, I don't believe that, so it doesn't apply to me." Because it really only doesn't apply to you if it's not true. But if it is true, it applies to you whether you believe in it or not.

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Registered: 09-03-2007
In reply to: mrs_bruce
Mon, 09-03-2007 - 1:56pm
What about the women who chose proper protection and it did not work? What about women who are too old to be having children and are now faced with have to start over again? Are you saying that if we have sex with our partner that we are irresponsible if we want to have an abortion? I think you are very narrow minded. I think it is worse to bring a child into a world where the parents are not prepared to have a child. Look at all of these abused, neglected and drug babies. Trust me when I say that there is a lot more to the debate have an abortion or not. The debate should be whether or not those particular parents are equipped and mentally able to commit their life to raising a healthy and happy child. Because if there are not then abortion is the answer instead of making that child suffer for faulty birth control!

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