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Sat, 09-19-2009 - 9:46pm

Well, I had a d & c when I miscarried. I don't remember whether it was gentle or not, because I was asleep the whole time (under anesthesia).

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Sat, 09-19-2009 - 11:41pm

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NO! Many babies have been born prior to 23 weeks, my daughter was born sleeping at 15 weeks... NON-viable. my friends daughter was born AT 23 weeks and was considered non-vaible...nothing was done to save her. So 5-6 weeks avsolutely NOT Viable Heartbeat does NOT= Viable in the medical community...ability to survive outside the womb does.


as far as gentle...at 5-6 weeks a fetus has no ability to feel pain...so weather the D&C is gentle or not is a non-issue.


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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 12:18am

Welcome back to the board :)

1) D & C's are pretty common procedures, for a variety of circumstances:

http://www.webmd.com/menopause/dilation-and-curettage-dc-for-bleeding-during-menopause .

2) Usually the patient is unconscious (under general anesthesia), but I gather from the PP website that they don't use that. If you have specific questions, maybe contact them and ask:

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/contact-us.htm .

3) It's legal in my country because the rights of the woman to make decisions re: her body (including medical decisions) was found to constitutionally override those of a fetus.

4) No, a heart beat does not confirm viability. Medical viability re: the fetus means "capable of extrauterine survival".

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/viability .

5) Re: the potential for life being there, often yes. Unfortunately when I aborted both myself and the fetus would have died had I not agreed to the procedure.

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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 12:22am

Out of curiosity, do you also object to the use of hormonal birth control and/or IUD's, given that both forms of birth control can kill any ovum which manage to become fertilized (ie. as you put it, "kill life")?

Also, my understanding was that you have "OB patients" (link below). How is it that you didn't know the medical definition of "viability"? In what capacity are they your "patients"?

http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-psabortdeb&msg=4784.49

eta Thank you in advance for answering my questions. I'm quite interested in your stance.




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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 12:44pm

In my opinion, I think that a fetus at 25 weeks gestation is viable. After that point, abortion for me is far more black and white. Should a woman be able to just up and decide that she doesn't want to do this anymore and abort? Absolutely not and I doubt sincerely that any doctor would participate in that. But I'm absolutely not willing to legislate any end point for abortions because there will still be women who need to abort for medical emergencies, whether to preserve their life or terminate for fetal abnormalities.


For me personally, I can't imagine aborting unless that pregnancy would make me uncapable of caring for my born son or if the embryo/fetus had catastrophic abnormalities. But I know that my situation is not the same as every other woman's so I won't presume to decide what is right for her.

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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 2:29pm

Actually, they have to do a D & C gently or they can perforate the uterus. My mom had at least one towards the end of peri-menopause. Maybe that's what they meant, I don't know.

Most abortions are done via medication, however, not by D & C.

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