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Sat, 09-19-2009 - 8:43pm

 

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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 2:35pm

Yes, I'm aware of the difference between viability of a pregnancy and that of a fetus.

In your post, though, you seemed to be claiming that a fetus had reached the age of viability by 5-6 weeks. Thank you for clarifying your meaning :)

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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 2:45pm

I don't know anybody for whom abortion was a casual decision, actually, much less so than when women are on hormonal birth control which can also "kill life". That said, we have about half the abortion rate as the US.

I'm not in a position, though, to decide for another what is and isn't a good enough reason, and I do think that the decision lies with her. That's one reason why I'm pro-choice.

I lost a parent to suicide when I was young, and watch my youngest often struggle to continue living (multiple disabilities and serious illness), I've miscarried a number of times, etc.. While life is precious to me, I realize that death is also part of that.

In answer to your question, I think the z/e/f is human life from the get-go. Personally I'd only abort due to medical emergency (which was the case with me) and probably in the case of rape, for ex., or other drastic situations incl. what I feel is best for the z/e/f depending on their circumstance.

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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 3:12pm

~Actually I do work in the medicine and closely with obstetrics~

In what capacity do you work "in the medicine"?

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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 4:51pm

 

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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 6:30pm
I think that would be so interesting! :)

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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 9:34pm

 

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Sun, 09-20-2009 - 10:37pm

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How many have you had? I have had 3 D&Cs following miscarriages, 2 curettage and one suction. And they were a lot more gentle than the 4 c sections I had. C sections are major abdominal surgery and the abdominal wall is opened and many major organs handled. It carried much more risk than a simple D & C- and from experience infinitely MORE pain. NONE of my D&Cs hurt.

<< Do they have a big sheet like for a ceserian?>>

Don't know- they administer the most AWESOME general anesthesia first- beats the heck out of an epidural ;-)

<< How in the world is it legal to kill life or as many like to say here, the potential for life? >>

No woman is compelled to accept the role as incubator against her will. No woman is compelled to accept one set of risks over another against her will. THAT is why.

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Um no. Try yanking out an embryo at that age and see what happens.

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You mean life support system?

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Right. And that potential only continues with the willing participation of the woman who bears the brunt of all of the short and long term risks..




Edited 9/20/2009 10:42 pm ET by erosia_raunch
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Mon, 09-21-2009 - 12:59pm

>>At 5-6 weeks we can see a heart beating under ultrasound. Does not a heart beat confirm viability?
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Not at all. Many fetus prove not to be viable after a heart beat has been established

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Mon, 09-21-2009 - 4:17pm

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I think most PC posters would agree with this. I have never encountered anyone who was PC that thinks it's ok for abortion to casually be used as the only method of birth control. We are ALL FOR taking responsibility BEFORE conception occurs and preventing pregnancy in the first place.


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See, this is where I begin to have a problem with

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Mon, 09-21-2009 - 11:53pm

But also just so you know birth control pills, shots, iud's and so forth all stop a fertilized egg from bieng able to implant itself inside of the uterus, therefore it starves to death and is then expelled through your menstrual period. That bieng said, if life truly starts at conception then a fertilized egg is a child and therefore birth control is also a form of abortion.

I was forced into abortion and I regret it and would never do it again, but I do not understand pro lifers who preach about birth control, because if they actually read up on it they would see the big picture.