Men's abortion rights

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Men's abortion rights
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Wed, 01-30-2008 - 4:06pm

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Wed, 01-30-2008 - 4:24pm

Unreal. Here are my thoughts about men and abortion:

If it was JUST AS MUCH his BODY, you'd have a point. But, since pregnancy and it's risks, both long & short-term, both acute and chronic, mild and severe, rest with the woman- he doesn't get a veto.

Regrettable it may be that he does not have this veto power, and unfair it may seem- as long as the continuation or termination of a pregnancy directly impacts the woman's body, the only choice will be hers. So as a woman bears the brunt of the health & physical risks, she will be challenged to make the ultimate decision.

She MOST EMPHATICALLY has EVERY right to abort- even in the case of disagreement with the man. When the man grows a uterus and may gestate & give birth, then, and only THEN, does his vote actually weigh more than the woman's.
Face it: if a woman is pregnant, and there is a disagreement between the man & the woman as to whether to continue the pregnancy or have an abortion, there can NEVER be a fair & equitable solution. Never. In either option, one person's choice supersedes the other. In NO WAY should the winning vote come from the person whose body is NOT being used, whose body or life is NOT assuming the inherent short-term, as well as long-term, physical & psychological risks of gestation and birth.

While I feel empathy for any man in this situation, that empathy will NEVER outweigh my firm and inequivocal conviction that the woman, and the woman ONLY, must be the one who makes the final choice in the course of a pregnancy.


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Registered: 05-09-2007
Wed, 01-30-2008 - 5:54pm

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All I have to say to that is that if I had ever gotten an abortion (and before actually getting pregnant with my son and deciding to keep him, I made sure that should two barrier methods of contraception fail on me, I had enough money around at all times to get one) the man would never have known. Can't experience symptoms of "post-abortion syndrome" if you don't know that there was an abortion!


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I'm going to have bad dreams about this tonight. Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but according to the first line it seems that under this bill, men would have the right to decide that a woman he impregnates SHOULD get an abortion as well as refusing to let her get one. Um . . . is he the ONLY person in the equation? Why should he be the sole decision maker? I personally don't think men have any place in this decision at all, but this bill seems to give them sole discretion. What the hell is wrong with people? Out of fairness to men, women will be entirely stripped of their rights all together? Now I've heard it all.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Wed, 01-30-2008 - 6:06pm

"It is right to be contented with what we have, but never with what we are."

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Wed, 01-30-2008 - 7:19pm

Sections B1 and B2 are, IMO, outrageous as the woman must have a written consent before she can have an abortion regardless of the viability of the fetus.

"It is right to be contented with what we have, but never with what we are."

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Registered: 05-09-2007
Wed, 01-30-2008 - 8:13pm





<<(2) This section does not apply if the abortion is necessary,
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in appropriate medical judgment, to preserve the life or the
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health of the pregnant woman.>>


This is particularly frightening. According to this, a woman may be beholden to the approval of not just one man, but two (if her doctor is a man)?? Why don't we just get her neighbors and co-workers to give written consent too. Obviously everyone in the entire world is more qualified than she is herself to decide what to do about her pregnancy.

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Wed, 01-30-2008 - 8:35pm

As I read it, since

"It is right to be contented with what we have, but never with what we are."

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Registered: 01-13-2006
Thu, 01-31-2008 - 12:59am

Wobit-


If you are reading this:

"It is right to be contented with what we have, but never with what we are."

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Registered: 07-19-2007
Thu, 01-31-2008 - 9:00am

I had the same reaction that alot of you ladies had, shock and disgust! That's why I had to share it!


The fact that they are talking about making it mandatory for a woman to have the permission of the man to abort the fetus is mind blowing. What about the women in abusive relationships who accidenrtally get pregnant and want out, this could be another tool abusive men

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Registered: 03-07-2007
Thu, 01-31-2008 - 10:02am

I am sickened, but I'm not all that surprised.

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Thu, 01-31-2008 - 12:59pm

This, IMO, is the worst part of it:

(b) A copy of a paternity test that gives the person who is
to perform or induce the abortion reasonable cause to believe that
the woman became pregnant as the result of incest.

In other words, not only did the woman have sex with a close relative, she has to have him have a paternity test to prove it. How many men who raped their cousins, nieces or daughters are going to be willing to consent to the proof of that?

Okay, I'm done with this law. I just can't read any more.




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