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Sun, 01-31-2010 - 10:58pm

I've been an occasional lurker here just because I love a good debate, but I rarely get involved because I can get caught up in it and never leave...;) There is a question that I have for all the pro choicers out there.

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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 3:03pm

My pregnancy and labour sucked. The thing that got me through was knowing that I wanted this, I planned it, and I had a happy home waiting for my child at the end of it.

I imagine that being forced to gestate the product of rape would feel like being raped again every day. And I can see no reason why such a woman would eat right, avoid alcohol or cigarettes, take folic acid, or do anything at all that a person ought to do for fetal health and development.

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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 3:04pm

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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 3:19pm

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What are they, besides carrying through with the pregnancy and raising the child or putting it up for adoption? Am I missing something? Sorry, but I don't think it's right to force a woman to gestate and birth the baby of her rapist.

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Yet you see fit to dictate what women who HAVE experienced this should do about it. Interesting.

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How about a woman like me, who begins showing signs of preeclampsia at 20 weeks along? Thankfully, mine didn't get to the severe level until I was about 32-33 weeks with each of my babies, but even so, my bouts of PE have left me with permanent kidney damage, as well as temporary liver damage after each birth. What if my kidneys and liver had already been badly compromised at, let's say...24 weeks, so as to put my own life in jeopardy? Still no dice?

I wish I could find it, but there is a great blog out there written by a woman who terminated her twin pregnancy at something like 22 weeks when she developed early-onset, life-threatening preeclampsia. I only found it after my first bout with the same disease, but it REALLY opened my eyes and changed my way of thinking, especially so after it happened to me again with my second baby.

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Registered: 06-04-2004
Tue, 02-02-2010 - 3:21pm

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Women died. Their fallopian tubes ruptured. They bled to death.

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Registered: 06-04-2004
Tue, 02-02-2010 - 4:01pm

Found Cecily's blog:

http://www.uppercasewoman.com/

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Registered: 04-02-2009
Tue, 02-02-2010 - 5:18pm

"I don't agree with forced childbearing any more than rape or forced marriage."


Exactly. It amazes me how many people simply refuse to acknowledge just how huge a violation forced chilbearing is.


I read a comment today, to an online article, from a woman who was formerly extremely PL, had started to see why people

 

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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 5:57pm

That story was just heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. I'm sitting in my office, trying not to cry. I totally should not read stuff like that, but I can't say that I didn't know exactly what the content would be.

Do you think if you had a mild case of it before, your chances of getting it really badly are less than if you had a really bad case before?




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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 6:06pm

(((HUGS))) Holly.

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I wish I knew. I was told that because of the severity of my first case, I had a 60% chance of having it again. But I don't know the general stats for subsequent pregnancies.

They might have that info here, but I haven't looked extensively:

http://www.preeclampsia.org/index.asp

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Tue, 02-02-2010 - 7:56pm

>Someone else brought up having an ectopic pregnancy that was terminated. This may be a double standard but, this to me this is the only case in which termination of pregnancy is allowable. It is impossible to carry to term and in most cases, the embryo dies even without medical intervention. I had a cousin that is happened to twice before she had a successful birth. I'd had always seen this as more of a miscarriage.<

My sister & I have a friend who had 2 fetus died and she carried them for a couple of months while they rotten away inside of her. She swelled up and became very ill, don't you think she should of been allowed to have a abortions for that?

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Registered: 04-19-2006
Wed, 02-03-2010 - 8:20am

> This may be a double standard but, this to me this is the only case in which termination of pregnancy is allowable. It is impossible to carry to term and in most cases, the embryo dies even without medical intervention.<

ectopic isn't the only situation that holds true for but it is probably the most common one. Another example would be if the placenta partially detaches from the uterine wall. This can cause the mother to bleed out internally. Depending on where she is in the pregnancy it would kill her before the fetus ever reached viability.

Another example is in a twin pregnancy when one twin dies. If the tissue is not reabsorbed it can cause septicemia and the only way to fix it is with a D&C.

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