Nothing to stop labor at 23 weeks....

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Registered: 08-14-2009
Nothing to stop labor at 23 weeks....
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Sat, 10-17-2009 - 11:50pm
Okay so I had an amnio done and for some reason the hole didnt seal back up.
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Registered: 02-06-2009
Wed, 10-21-2009 - 4:56am

<....he told me it had to do with the fact that someone could have an abortion up until 24 weeks.

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Registered: 08-27-2007
Tue, 10-20-2009 - 3:23pm

That physician was doing his job in a very difficult circumstance - especially since physicians get paid when they "do" something, not to counsel people about the option of stopping treatment, or quality of life issues.


Having a critically ill child myself I am aware that there is a distinct difference between quality of life and quantity of life. We were cousnelled about herioc efforts and treatments and at what happenes at the

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 &n

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Registered: 06-24-2009
Tue, 10-20-2009 - 8:23am

Certainly it's your choice to ask for or refuse treatment. However, it's also a physicians perogative to not give treatment or procedures that are not sanctioned by their hospital, or by their specialty organization.

In their opinion, heroic measures to sustain a 23 week old fetus are (probably) not considered to be successful enough prognosis to warrant all that it would require in the way of managing parental expectations, quality of life, and resources required. So, they make it a policy, so there will not be up to the physician to be the one to deny it. And that physician may have been trying to brush off any anger (or potential lawsuits) towards him and his colleagues by laying it on the abortion debate. I'm sorry, physicians don't make collective decisions about prenatal prognosis based soley on keeping abortion legal.

A hospital could keep a full term anancephalic (having no brain) baby on life support indefinitely at the demand of the parents, but to what end? Of course, I can see parents wanting not to let go of their baby. Of course I can see that they would want to be able to demand this. Of course I can see that someone would make the argument that the baby is alive, and any and all amounts of money, equipment and personnel should be dedicated to "life."

But is that responsible medicine? There are not unlimited resources. I know personally of a family that refused heroic measures for their 6 year old son that had cystic fibrosis. His increasing seizures and hospitalizations were not the life his parents thought he should live. Their physician asked if they wanted to resuscitate after a particularly long and violent episode, and they said no.

That physician was doing his job in a very difficult circumstance - especially since physicians get paid when they "do" something, not to counsel people about the option of stopping treatment, or quality of life issues.

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Registered: 08-27-2007
Tue, 10-20-2009 - 12:42am

I know a few 24 weekers myself. I guess its different up here as I have never heard such a reference. And frnakly if I am demanding they save my baby it shoudlnt matter what the legal cut off for abortions are.


They do abortions up to what..7 months in some places. SO now they wont save a 7 month old fetus b/c they may offend someones sensibilities.





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 &n

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Registered: 08-14-2009
Tue, 10-20-2009 - 12:03am
Ya I am in the homestetch now.
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Registered: 01-19-2006
Mon, 10-19-2009 - 9:09pm

What an awful experience for you to go through. I'm so glad that things turned around and both you and the baby are doing well now.


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Registered: 08-27-2007
Sun, 10-18-2009 - 11:09am

Up here its 21 weeks. And the reason for that is the fetal death rate and the instances of long term severe disabilities for babies born under that fetal age.


I have not heard what your saying being related to abortion, but to the actual rate of survivial.


Now should you get to chose, heck yes I think you should get to chose if you want your baby to recieve medical treatment. We have laws that state if the child is born alive then you have to do what ever possible to save it.





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 &n

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Registered: 04-19-2006
Sun, 10-18-2009 - 8:42am

I am not sure how things are different in Canada but when I first went into Labor with DS2 a few days shy of 23 weeks the drs told me that there was nothing they would be able to do at that point if we couldn't stall it. Medical intervention would only drag out the inevitable. I did deliver at 24 weeks and the baby went to NICU while we were there I met five other families in the same boat and out of those five only one baby survived.

I suspect that refusal to do anything at 23 weeks had more to do with nearly nonexistant chances of survival than abortion. even at 24 or 25 weeks the odds are not in the babys favor

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Sun, 10-18-2009 - 2:39am

First, I want to say that I'm glad that you have been able to carry your baby to almost 30 weeks (and hopefully longer!) That's amazing. The CL of my expecting club started leaking amniotic fluid at 18 weeks and was able, after 15 weeks of bedrest, to deliver a healthy baby at 32 weeks. He just turned one last month. Awesome!


Second, I wonder what the doctor meant by saying "abortion debate issues" would keep them from trying to save a baby born at 23/24 weeks. It would seem to me that it is the job of a doctor to care for a born patient. What does abortion have to do with a born child? Did they tell you anything else about it, or was that it?

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