If this nurse truly believed that abortion is murder, she would have refused to do this procedure. She is a hypocrite. There is no way that I would have done this - I would have said "no" and walked off the job, easily, with no regrets. The only way I would even consider it, would be if the pregnant woman's life was in eminent danger. This was a six month old baby!!
She should exercise her conscious by leaving her job (or better yet not taking it in the first place)
I have walked away from jobs that offended my morals. Ex I have turned down child care jobs from people who demanded I spank their children. Hitting children is against my morals. It is not right for me to take the job but not fulfill all the requirements so I simply walked away and lost the income.
Sometimes following your own moral compass involves personal sacrifice be it of income, friends, or the job you really want.
I've worked at a few hospitals now and all of them have had a clause saying that a nurse may refuse to care for a patient if it goes against their beliefs only if there in another nurse to take their place. If there is not another nurse to take their place, then the nurse must care for the patient or risk having charges for abandonning their patient. As a nurse, she knew that.
As far as the need for an abortion dut to pre-ecplampsia, it just depends on the patient's medical status. I was diagnosed with pre-eclampsia at 36 weeks and was induced so that it would not progress to full blown eclampsia. There are medications that can be given to help with pre-eclampsia and eclampsia, but they don't always work and often only act as something to buy more time. So, it the mom was almost at a point of viability for the baby and not in a critical state, they probably could have tried to by some time with the medications to make it to viability for the baby. BUT, if she was critical and not near viability, the medications wouldn't have done much to help her. In all instances, the actual cure for eclampsia is removal of the cause which is the fetus.
This is from the Washington Times - I find it interesting that only tabloids, PL orgs or conservative leaning news sources are reporting on this.
From wikipedia:
Eclampsia can occur after the onset of pre-eclampsia. Eclampsia, which is a more serious condition, complicates 1 in 2000 maternities in the United Kingdom and carries a maternal mortality of 1.8 per cent. The HELLP syndrome is more common, probably about 1 in 500 maternities, but may be as dangerous as eclampsia itself. These two major maternal crises can present unheralded by prodromal signs of pre-eclampsia.
Cerebral hemorrhage is a lesion that can kill women with pre-eclampsia or eclampsia. In that cerebral hemorrhage is a known complication of severe hypertension in other contexts, it must be assumed that this is a major predisposing factor in this situation, although this has not been proved. Adult respiratory distress syndrome appears to have become more common, it is not known whether this is a consequence of modern methods of respiratory support rather than of the disease itself.
Treatment and prevention The only known treatments for eclampsia or advancing pre-eclampsia are abortion or delivery, either by induction or Caesarean section. >>
So the nurse was wrong in her diagnosis of the woman's prognosis.
I don't think I could've said it better. What I also take issue with is that she only started objecting once she realized the fetus was still alive. Before that it was OK?
you make total sense...and I completely agree with you. However from what I've read that hospital has a clause that they will not force staff to preform/ participate in
Technically, she didn't *do the procedure.
"It is right to be contented with what we have, but never with what we are."
She should exercise her conscious by leaving her job (or better yet not taking it in the first place)
I have walked away from jobs that offended my morals. Ex I have turned down child care jobs from people who demanded I spank their children. Hitting children is against my morals. It is not right for me to take the job but not fulfill all the requirements so I simply walked away and lost the income.
Sometimes following your own moral compass involves personal sacrifice be it of income, friends, or the job you really want.
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I've worked at a few hospitals now and all of them have had a clause saying that a nurse may refuse to care for a patient if it goes against their beliefs only if there in another nurse to take their place. If there is not another nurse to take their place, then the nurse must care for the patient or risk having charges for abandonning their patient. As a nurse, she knew that.
As far as the need for an abortion dut to pre-ecplampsia, it just depends on the patient's medical status. I was diagnosed with pre-eclampsia at 36 weeks and was induced so that it would not progress to full blown eclampsia. There are medications that can be given to help with pre-eclampsia and eclampsia, but they don't always work and often only act as something to buy more time. So, it the mom was almost at a point of viability for the baby and not in a critical state, they probably could have tried to by some time with the medications to make it to viability for the baby. BUT, if she was critical and not near viability, the medications wouldn't have done much to help her. In all instances, the actual cure for eclampsia is removal of the cause which is the fetus.
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This is from the Washington Times - I find it interesting that only tabloids, PL orgs or conservative leaning news sources are reporting on this.
From wikipedia:
Eclampsia can occur after the onset of pre-eclampsia. Eclampsia, which is a more serious condition, complicates 1 in 2000 maternities in the United Kingdom and carries a maternal mortality of 1.8 per cent. The HELLP syndrome is more common, probably about 1 in 500 maternities, but may be as dangerous as eclampsia itself. These two major maternal crises can present unheralded by prodromal signs of pre-eclampsia.
Cerebral hemorrhage is a lesion that can kill women with pre-eclampsia or eclampsia. In that cerebral hemorrhage is a known complication of severe hypertension in other contexts, it must be assumed that this is a major predisposing factor in this situation, although this has not been proved. Adult respiratory distress syndrome appears to have become more common, it is not known whether this is a consequence of modern methods of respiratory support rather than of the disease itself.
Treatment and prevention
The only known treatments for eclampsia or advancing pre-eclampsia are abortion or delivery, either by induction or Caesarean section. >>
So the nurse was wrong in her diagnosis of the woman's prognosis.
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Forced? Tied to a chair? Held at gunpoint?
Edited 7/31/2009 1:37 pm ET by mom_carmina
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Actually, that makes complete sense to me based on her pro-life position.
you make total sense...and I completely agree with you. However from what I've read that hospital has a clause that they will not force staff to preform/ participate in
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This case is being touted as one re: freedom of conscious.
"It is right to be contented with what we have, but never with what we are."