Personhood

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Thu, 05-01-2008 - 3:36pm

I usually just lurk on this board (haven't posted in a long time) but I was remembering a story that occured a couple of years ago here in Phoenix and it made me think of points regarding personhood.


A couple of years ago a pregnant woman got a ticket for driving in the carpool lane by herself.

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Registered: 03-07-2007
In reply to: tyraaz
Fri, 05-09-2008 - 9:11am

Sorry, just saw your post.

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Registered: 04-19-2006
In reply to: tyraaz
Fri, 05-09-2008 - 9:01am
About the seat belt thing. In an accident you could become a 100+ pound flying projectile and injure others and that is part of the reason you have to wear them. Well that and the gov does not want to pay the bill for peoples individual hardheadedness and it will have to for anyone on medicade or other gov assistance









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Registered: 04-19-2006
In reply to: tyraaz
Fri, 05-09-2008 - 8:59am
Oh don't get me wrong I know there would be a LOT of kinks to work out and I don't have all the answers (hence why I am not a politician). I think illegal drugs would be a good jumping point though. I just hate seeing women who churn out baby after baby with prenatal drug exposure and get nothing for it, I can not see that as anything but abuse.









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Registered: 01-21-2008
In reply to: tyraaz
Thu, 05-08-2008 - 7:38pm

>>That's a bit confrontational, isn't it?

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Registered: 06-17-2007
In reply to: tyraaz
Thu, 05-08-2008 - 5:44pm
I guess I worry about how invasive a system would have to be in order to enforce such a law. I could see testing for the presence of illegal substances with known teratological consequences (like cocaine, for example), but what about alcohol? Should I be tested for the presence of alcohol in my system, a legal substance with questionable teratology, because women who binge drink daily have babies with health problems? How often would you test for it?




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Registered: 04-19-2006
In reply to: tyraaz
Thu, 05-08-2008 - 12:43pm

So does everything but that does not mean all choices are valid. I could CHOOSE not to feed my kids but that would not mean it is ok.

Why not actually debate what I said? Why can we not offer SOME protections to the unborn without granting them FULL human rights?

Personally I would like to see it illegal to ingest drugs that are known to have life long consequences for a child who is exposed prenatally if you have intentions of gestating said pregnancy. Why should women be allowed to abuse child after child and straddle them with life long disabilities just because they did it before said child was born? After all if they choose to gestate that choice should come with some responsibilities IMO










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Registered: 03-07-2007
In reply to: tyraaz
Thu, 05-08-2008 - 10:29am

That's a bit confrontational, isn't it?

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Registered: 01-21-2008
In reply to: tyraaz
Thu, 05-08-2008 - 10:22am

>>I don't see as how it has to be all or nothing. Why can we not grant some rights without granting all rights<<


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Registered: 03-31-2003
In reply to: tyraaz
Thu, 05-01-2008 - 5:28pm

Thanks for the welcome.

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Registered: 03-31-2003
In reply to: tyraaz
Thu, 05-01-2008 - 5:21pm

Correction on my first post.

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