PL groups involved in other choices!

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PL groups involved in other choices!
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Thu, 06-28-2007 - 5:19pm

In Missouri a bill was passed with language that allowed for Certified Proffesional Midwives (CPMs) to legally practice in that state. The circumstances surrounding the language has caused an uproar, and since I am involved in trying to get CPMs in our state legal I have been working on learning how other states have managed this process. I ran across this article, that relates more to the wording of the bill than anything, and I discovered this little tidbit about the bill. "They are opposed, however, by three powerful groups. Religious anti-abortion groups suggest more midwives might increase abortions." http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/grantbarrett/tocology_obfuscation_enhances_legislation/
So when I read this I'm furious for many reasons. 1) PL groups state that abortion is the only thing they are interested in outlawing and that the PC argument that it's a slippery slope is hogwash. This now PROVES to me that their stance is CRAP. All those groups want are for women to be forced on their backs while some medically minded person tells them wha to do to have their baby. It looks like it's about control than anything. 2) Midwives help deliver babies. They are not trained in abortions and don't do them. Women go to them to have a NATURAL, home delivery. Many midwive believe that it is God's calling to become a midwife and help other women to have the labor that they desire, some even believe that messing with delivery in the medical model is the opposite of God's intentions, and I even know a few that won't take women who've had abortions (obviously I diisagree with their stance in that respect). 3) A homebirth is the natural way to go. Most likely the way God intended (if you believe in her). Yes, this is redundant, but since so many PLs seem to taut what God's will is then why would you take this away from women who want to follow what they think is God's will (obviously not all women who homebirth think this way, but a great number DO). 4) CPMs provide a high quality of care for alot less than a hospital, making a birth affordable to those who don't have insurance, which include many of the reasons that women choose abortion in the first place (seems to me that by not legalizing CPMs you could be CAUSING more abortions).

What are your thoughts on this. How are we PCers and women supposed to trust an organization that is so bent on taking every choice away from women that they can? Again, this is a personal affect on me so others may not see it the way I do or even care, but I thought I'd put it out there.

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Registered: 03-18-2004
Thu, 06-28-2007 - 5:24pm
wow that is twisted. I have never in my mind associated midwives with abortion.



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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 06-28-2007 - 5:32pm

"wow that is twisted. I have never in my mind associated midwives with abortion."

Me either...but there was so much anger towards pl'ers in her post I couldn't really tell if she was upset with the midwives or the pl groups or what.

FTR, my daughter had midwives for both of her births and we loved them both...no problems with either of them...as for homebirths, I wouldn't do a homebirth...not sure what God's will would be on that...think it would be between God and the person having the baby.

Sue

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Registered: 07-29-2004
Thu, 06-28-2007 - 5:36pm
I think I was pretty specific about my anger being at the PL groups that oppose the bills legalizing CPMs.
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Registered: 01-07-2007
Thu, 06-28-2007 - 5:58pm

I would much rather give birth here at home, I have the perfect tub to labor in (and deliver in, should I so choose) and since I'm planning an unmedicated Bradley birth anyhow I believe it would be most suitable. Unfortunately, from what I understand (which truthefully is very limited) this isn't allowed in Alabama. Fortunately, I love my OB and have met the nurses at L&D where I'll deliver and love them as well.

It's sad, really, that we aren't given enough credit to make these kinds of decisions on our own. I think sometimes we get so hell bent on 'saving' everyone that we forget that there are times when *live* is going to happen regardless of our intervention and in that I mean death is not only eventually inevitable but could possibly occur before we'd like or expect it to.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 06-28-2007 - 6:34pm

Do you know why your state doesn't allow homebirths? Is it to protect the midwives from lawsuits or they don't have enough faith in them?

Sue

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Registered: 01-07-2007
Thu, 06-28-2007 - 6:43pm

Actually I don't know all the details. I want to say what I was told was that midwives were not allowed to do homebirths-I can have a homebirth all day long and twice on sunday but a midwife or doula is not allowed to supervise. I'd have to find an OB that does homebirths or give birth without any type of medical professional. I wouldn't doubt that a lot of the issue is liability.

I'll have to see what I can find out exactly. I'm sure my Bradley teacher knows the details, I'll have to ask her on Sunday at my next class.

Eh, it's the south. There are lots of things I disagree with but have come to expect from living here, lol!

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Registered: 01-07-2007
Thu, 06-28-2007 - 6:52pm

Ok, according to wikipedia I was wrong. Certified Nurse Midwives are allowed to do assisted homebirths but a 'direct entry midwife' (not exactly sure what that means) cannot.

Here's an article I found from March of this year.

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1174810613217900.xml&coll=2&thispage=1

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 06-28-2007 - 7:15pm
Will that change your mind, or are you all set and going to go ahead with a hospital birth since you are so close to your due date? What is it, 3 weeks? 3 weeks is nearly due, eh? I had one that was a month late...argh...one that was 2 days before due date and 2 that were scheduled c-sections, so they were scheduled 2 weeks early...those were the easiest for me....but I don't recommend a c-section if you can avoid it! I wish you the best...do you know if you are have a boy or a girl?
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Registered: 01-07-2007
Thu, 06-28-2007 - 9:52pm

I'll be having a hospital birth, they don't even have facilities in my town where I can labor/deliver in a tub (that was something I was interested in, too).

My doctor is fantastic and the l&d staff at the hospital is, too. They all know I don't want any drugs or medical intervention unless necessary or asked for and they are VERY supportive.

I am 37 weeks tomorrow and I'm ready NOW! Lol, I swear he's had a growth spurt in the last couple of days and I'm not sure I can stretch anymore. Oh, and it's boy! :)

Thanks so much for the well wishes, too. ;)

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 06-29-2007 - 2:07am

Well, when I thought I couldn't stretch anymore, I did..LOL! I'm not a very big person...my first two were pretty big...I delivered them naturally...not by choice. My second two were c-sections...should have been the other way around!! I did Lamaze, but have heard good things about the Bradley Method. Lamaze wasn't helpful for me, but could have been more about my partner, Who sat and read a magazine :-P

Will be on baby watch!!

Sue

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