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Tue, 09-25-2007 - 3:18pm
I have the unfortunate task of being able to watch this madness unfold before my very eyes. A friend of mine was diagnosed with a rare cancer recently....she's also 10 weeks Pg. from what the doctors tell her
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Registered: 07-13-2007
In reply to: hydromommy
Tue, 09-25-2007 - 4:32pm
I remember this story I heard a couple years ago on the news, and looked it up. Here's the link; your friend might like to read it:
Mom, Baby Battle Cancer Together
She had stage 4 cancer and she needed to begin chemotherapy right away.
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Tue, 09-25-2007 - 4:44pm
I would abort.

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Tue, 09-25-2007 - 5:09pm
i'm so sorry about your friend. honestly i don't really know. one hand i have 2 kids already to think about but my heart would struggle so hard in taking the life.

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Tue, 09-25-2007 - 6:03pm
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Tue, 09-25-2007 - 8:44pm
Thank you to everyone for the well wishes for my friend. She already made the decision to abort ( before I even placed this query on the board). Because of the particulars of her type of cancer the hormones from her pregnancy were accelerating the cancer cell growth and there was no safe way of
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Wed, 09-26-2007 - 9:10am

I hope your friend is well. I hope she is in a place where she can take the time to grieve the pregnancy loss, in addition to facing the cancer.

There is a huge amount of variation depending on what type of cancer and how advanced it is. Just as a liver is not much like a lung, not much like an eye, hepatocellular carcinoma isn't much like melanoma, isn't much like non-small cell carcinoma of the lung. The degree to which treatment is even an option varies, and the degree to which treatment will affect your life varies. "Chemo" is just a word that means taking chemical therapy for your cancer. With some cancers, we have highly tailored rational chemotherapies that are nearly magically precise. With other cancers, it's just a measured dose of poison...measured to kill the cancer without quite killing the patient. The stronger the patient, the harder they hit you.

With the "female cancers" (breast and ovarian) there is often a hormonal sensitivity in the cancer. Your natural estrogen and progesterone feed the tumor and make it grow faster. Since we learned this, we can give a medication (Tamoxifen) that blocks the estrogen and makes you enter menopause abruptly. It works powerfully to slow the growth of the tumor or prevent recurrance or metastasis. It is obviously completely incompatible with pregnancy.

What I'm trying to get down to is that if I had lymphoma or melanoma that didn't require radiation treatment, I could probably maintain a pregnancy. If I had breast cancer, where the first line of treatment is often methotrexate, the chance of being able to carry a pregnancy and survive is vanishingly small. Methotrexate is used in many clinics for medication abortion because of it's targeted hormonal activity. Similarly, studies are now coming out which show that mifepristone (RU-486) may be a breast cancer wonderdrug, saving the lives of women.

Once again, it totally depends on the particulars of the woman.

I have shared this story here before, but it was several months ago. Two years ago, my dear friend (an oncologist) vented her frustration to me about a patient she had who was early pregnant, and newly diagnosed with an aggressive breast cancer. After biopsy, it was discovered that her tumor was hormone-sensitive and that our newest wonderdrugs could save her life, but they would terminate the pregnancy. The patient decided to let the cancer grow, and bear the child. My friend - privately, to me - stamped and tore her hair, but completely supported the patient in her decision to knowingly sacrifice her life, leaving her husband alone with a daughter only a few months old. They worked closely with her to maintain her nutrition and quality of life as the cancer progressed, so she could share her final days with her husband and have the healthiest pregnancy possible.

The ability of that woman to be supported in her choice is as important to me as the ability of a woman to choose differently. I will see it as my responsibility to keep my own opinions to myself and support the woman as fully as possible in her wishes, should I ever face a similar situation in my future practice.

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Wed, 09-26-2007 - 10:41am
If i was told I could live to fetal viability and save the baby I would forgo treatment. I have a DH who I trust to raise my kids should something happen to me. If I won't survive to viability I would abort since the baby is going to die either way (baby can't grow in a dead uterus) so at least one of us would have a fighting chance and I would get treatment.





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Wed, 09-26-2007 - 1:18pm
i would not abort and i would beg God to have mercy on my babys life and let me live until my baby was at least 24 weeks. If i died i would die knowing i did all i could to save my childs life therefor i would die happy. Id do ANYTHING for my children they are the reason im alive
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Wed, 09-26-2007 - 1:44pm

<<i would not abort and i would beg God to have mercy on my babys life and let me live until my baby was at least 24 weeks. If i died i would die knowing i did all i could to save my childs life therefor i would die happy. Id do ANYTHING for my children they are the reason im alive >>


You say you would do anything for your children. If you had children at home when this happened and you KNEW you wouldn't live to achieve viability would you abort to spare your children the horror of losing thier mother?

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Wed, 09-26-2007 - 1:47pm

"Id do ANYTHING for my children they are the reason im alive"

What if you already had born children? You would let yourself die and leave them? That sounds like you're choosing a fetus over children who need their mother.

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