Pro Abortion?

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Pro Abortion?
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Thu, 09-20-2007 - 12:30pm

Alot of you PL

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Registered: 10-21-2007
Sun, 10-21-2007 - 8:05pm

"Alot of you PL want to call us PC as being Pro-abortion. That is incorrect! "

What's the problem the term pro-abortion? It seems prefectly correct to me.

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Registered: 11-29-2005
Sun, 10-21-2007 - 8:13pm

I think it's safe to say that the PC group does NOT want women to go out and get abortions willy-nilly.


I know that I would love to see the number of abortions performed in this country plummet....but we disagree on the means to achieve those ends.


The PL side would like to reduce the SUPPLY of abortions, by enacting strict limitations on the availability and eventually completely outlawing abortion (though abortions are still plentiful in areas of the world where they are illegal).


Many on the PC side, on the other hand, would like to reduce the DEMAND for abortion, by enabling women to access CHEAP, SAFE, EFFECTIVE birth control, and by allowing women to control their sexual health (e.g. assisting women who otherwise would be forced into unsafe sexual situations by men in their lives).


So I'm pro-CHOICE, but that choice should ideally occur further up the line, BEFORE it comes to unwanted pregnancy and abortion.

 


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Registered: 10-21-2007
Sun, 10-21-2007 - 8:21pm
I am and always be will be 100% anti-abortion. On the other hand, I'm as pro-choice as the next person when it comes the contraception, comprehensive sex education (emphasis on comprehensive with a strong abstinence component) and support for single parents and low income families. These may unusual positions for a pro-life person, but I'd deeply resent being associated with abortion supporters on that basis.
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Registered: 06-03-2007
Sun, 10-21-2007 - 9:04pm

Hey there, welcome to the board!

Purely out of curiosity (we do seem to start up a fair number of discussions out of curiosity here, trying to get inside each others' heads) since you comment that your beliefs aren't always "usual" for a PL person... at what stage of the pregnancy do you draw the line? And what's your reasoning?

We've had some other pretty good threads by hearing everyone's different reasoning for where they draw the line on things like that.

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Registered: 10-21-2007
Sun, 10-21-2007 - 9:14pm
Thank you very much. :) Most Christians, of which I'm one, believe that life beings at conception. I believe, however, that there's another possibility. In the Book of Leviticus we read, "The life of every creature is in its blood." Blood cells start forming about two weeks after conception (before most women know they're pregnant) so perhaps that's when a person's life beings. This doesn't justify aborting a six or eight week old fetus, but it doesn't disallow using an IUD or Morning After pill either.
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Registered: 11-29-2005
Sun, 10-21-2007 - 9:28pm

"Most Christians, of which I'm one, believe that life beings at conception."


I take exception to this.

 


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Registered: 10-21-2007
Sun, 10-21-2007 - 9:33pm
I'm sorry. I probably should have Born Again Christians, or Evangelical. The conservative type anyway.
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Registered: 06-03-2007
Sun, 10-21-2007 - 9:48pm

That's a very poetic way to define it. Which is appealing to me, and you're right, it's something I haven't heard before.

In the politest way possible, can I get a bit geeky? I'm obsessively nitpicky on embryology, to a level that most folks don't care about. The progenitor cells to blood cells are one of the many things that form from the mesodermal layer, which isn't created until the third week after conception. Not a huge difference, as that's only a week or two after implantation and any woman who's not anxiously taking preg tests would still be thinking she was just a wee bit late no big deal. And it's technically not a fetus until 9 weeks after conception, which is what most people call 11 weeks pregnant... http://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/Notes/week3.htm

Not that any of those language tweaks change any of your conclusions! I've heard some other PL posters here choose the time of implantation as the point where they would draw the line. Do you find that your interpretation is fairly well received in your faith community?

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Registered: 11-29-2005
Sun, 10-21-2007 - 9:50pm

Now, THAT I can believe :)


 


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Registered: 10-21-2007
Sun, 10-21-2007 - 10:31pm
I guess you're right about. I'm not a terminology expert, but I guess it's not essential, as long the meaning's clear. As for how my views are received, I don't talk about them unless someone specifically asks. This being the volatile issue that it, I never know how people are going to react. They were reasonably well received the few times I did share them.

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