Pro-choice vs. Pro-life

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Registered: 02-04-2008
Pro-choice vs. Pro-life
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Mon, 02-04-2008 - 2:52pm

One of my best friends is completely prochoice...myself prolife.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 10:43am

I have friends who are also PC...I am PL...I have a very dear friend who is PC...she has had 3 abortions...and I will say that all three were from not using birth control...she was young and careless...the first one she had when she was 13.

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Registered: 04-15-2006
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 11:37am

"One of my best friends is completely prochoice...myself prolife.

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Registered: 04-15-2006
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 11:39am
46% ????
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Registered: 12-27-2007
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 12:17pm

(I understand that

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-17-2003
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 12:52pm

It is a heated topic.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-10-2003
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 12:56pm
Bravo~ you and me both. I'd wonder who he thought was in charge of my body. Him? The government? The god of religion to which I do not adhere? Bah!~ I'll keep my PC hubster~

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Registered: 11-04-2004
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 1:07pm

<I am a born again Christian...>


That's wonderful. I hope your chosen spiritual path brings you peace and happiness. Do you feel that being a "born again Christian" gives you the right to dictate the path others should choose?


<...God made sex for married couples...>


This being a debate board, can you offer proof of this assertion? Otherwise, it is simply part of your spiritual path and applies only to you.



Again, do you have proof of the assertion that "children are a gift from God"? Do you feel that your belief that "children are a gift from God" gives you the right to insist others believe the same thing? I'm truly curious.


Personally, I am an Atheist. In my view, there is no such thing as a "god." I certainly have no evidence to disprove the existence of a "god," so I would never presume to tell anyone that they shouldn't believe in a "god." Even if I did have evidence to proove that there was no such thing as a "god," I wouldn't presume to tell anyone else not to go on believing.


In my view, children are a result of successful pregnancy, labor, and delivery. Pregnancy is the result of sperm fertilzing an egg and the product of that fertilization implanting in the uterine wall. Those are facts of biology. Anyone can apply whatever spiritual significance to the facts they like. They cannot, however, attempt to make that spiritual significance apply to anyone else.

iVillage Member
Registered: 06-03-2007
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 1:18pm

...and of those 46%, a rough third felt they weren't at risk for pregnancy
"it's my first time - I can't get pregnant!"
a bout a third felt that they couldn't use contraceptives
"well, the pill gave me bad side effects, and who ever heard of any other method?"
and about a 20% had unexpected sex.
"my only plan is abstinence."

SO MUCH EDUCATION NEEDED!

iVillage Member
Registered: 02-15-2005
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 1:27pm

Even as a Christian, I don't buy the "children are a gift from God".


Reproduction is solely a biological function.


When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo! We're rich! But it turned out to be something different.


iVillage Member
Registered: 04-10-2003
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 1:27pm

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Sure she does. As long as it presents risks to her that are unique to gestation and pregnancy, there exists the option, and the inherent unequivocal right, to remove that risk- and thusly: the zygote. embryo or fetus.

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Abortion is one way of being accountable for that unintended pregnancy and one way to meet that responsibility. You may not choose it- and that's OK. YOUR body, YOUR risks, YOUR choice.

<If a condom fails again how is it the child’s fault? Yes the child might not have been planned but that does not give the couple the right to murder.>>

1.) Abortion is not murder. Murder is a legal term and abortion does not fit the criteria for establishing it as such.
2.) There would NEVER, EVER, be a day that I would permit my body to nourish and gestate the scum-ridden fetal by-product of a rape. I would carve it pout of me, if need be.,. But my uterus will NEVER be a place of sustenance for that which was violently imposed upon me.

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And abortion is one method of meeting that responsibility- and I daresay I find many abortions far more responsible than the irresponsible birthing of children by people who are ill-equipped to do so.

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I am a born-again pagan.

<< God made sex for married couples,>>

My goddess enjoys it and gave it to us as a gift to share between consenting dults- whether they be married, in love, in lust, male and female, male and male, female and female, or in groups.

<< it is not something to be taken lightly,>>

True- but it IS to be celebrated lustily, frequently, with abandon and sometimes just for the sheer horniness and physicality. Think Beltane, LOL~ It is both nourishing & depleting, serious and irreverent, giving and receiving, desperate and unhurried, tender and harsh, it comforts and it also provokes- it's the yin and yang.

<< (which is where careless sex comes in) >>

No it's where the "lusty" comes in- and it is VERY pleasing to the god and goddess. To deny those aspects is to refuse to indulge and appreciate in their luscious gift.

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It can- but it can be SO MUCH MORE.

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A gift that can be of dubious nature to some, and also a gift which need not be accepted.


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