Pro-life and Anti-abortion...

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Pro-life and Anti-abortion...
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Fri, 06-15-2007 - 6:44pm

...interchangable terms as far as some are concerned.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070615/ap_on_el_pr/republicans_abortion

Romney woos anti-abortion activists

"KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Friday told hundreds of anti-abortion activists that his conversion to their cause is genuine as he sought to fend off rivals' criticism that he's inconsistent on the issue. "

"'I am humbled to be standing among the many who have toiled for the pro-life movement for so long, when I arrived at this place of principle only a few years ago,' Romney said."

This *issue* came up in another thread and I guess I was curious as to what is the general consensus (on this board) is regarding the terminology used here.

I'd also like to point out that pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. There are lots of people who are for a woman's right to choose but for themselves are anti-abortion.

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Fri, 06-15-2007 - 8:38pm

I had always thought that 'prolife' was just a more polite term for 'anti-abortionist'. At the same time, I have always been keenly aware of the difference between prochoice and pro-abortion, but I've spent a lot of time with people that are very dedicated to abortion prevention via better sex ed and youth empowerment.

I guess it all leads back to Rumsfeld's type of 'known knowns' and 'unknown unknowns' and now I know there are 'known unknowns'. ha.

edited to add: what that philosophical paragraph meant to communicate is that I am recently enlightened to understand that there are differences among the antis as well as the pros.




Edited 6/15/2007 8:52 pm ET by wobitnobby
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Fri, 06-15-2007 - 9:28pm

I see the term pro-life being more associated with being against the death penalty rather than having anything to do with abortion. But then again I suppose it mostly has to do with how one defines *abortion* or more specifically *what* is being aborted.

I've always found it very interesting how language or specific words can have different meanings for people.

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Fri, 06-15-2007 - 10:04pm
I'll respect your wishes to be called pro-choice as opposed to pro-abortion. And please respect mine to be called pro-life instead of anti-abortion. I believe there's a difference, but that's subjective. Anyways, pro-abortion or anti-abortion both sound quite harsh to me. Pro-whatever sounds much nicer!

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Fri, 06-15-2007 - 10:19pm

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That is absolutely how I would most naturally understand the term, as well. As well as pro-rational-programs that support global health measures, vaccination, IUDs for third world women, that kinda thing. Pro-working-for-life-worth-living.

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Sat, 06-16-2007 - 8:22am

Pro-choice is not about being pro-abortion, though. It's simply about a woman's right to choose and not have the government regulate what she can do with her body. Honestly, what you or anyone else calls me has little to no bearing on what I believe or how I feel about myself and my position.

On the other hand, who exactly is NOT pro-life except those who are for the death penalty? Pro-choice people are not anti-life, that doesn't make sense. The terms pro-life and anti-abortion, to me aren't interchangeable.

I'm sure what it boils down to is semantics and has of yet to become a true *issue* outside of the minds of those who debate it. ;)

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Sat, 06-16-2007 - 10:37am

Ah, I used to be adament that prochoicers were proabortion...but I do not see it that way as my understanding of prochoicers has broadened over the years....they do not want abortions for women any more than prolifers do. They see availability of abortion as a necessity, but they do not desire for women to have abortions. There is a difference.

By the same token, I can be prolife and not be antiabortion as I believe a woman's life can be in danger and she should have abortion available to her. My 12 year old could be raped and she should have abortion available to her...I see these as medically necessary. There are probably others, as well, that I am not thinking of.

Many women on this board have helped me see that abortion is not black and white. Being prolife doesn't make me antiabortion...but not being antiabortion doesn't make me prochoice, either.

Sue

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Sat, 06-16-2007 - 11:55am
Agreed. Especially the black and white part as I've recognized that very few things in life are black and white.
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Sat, 06-16-2007 - 7:43pm

I'll respect your wishes to be called pro-choice as opposed to pro-abortion. And please respect mine to be called pro-life instead of anti-abortion."

But people who are pro-life are anti-abortion. Whereas people who are pro-choice, at least speaking for myself, are not always, or even ever (as far as I know!!) pro-abortion. I'm pro-choice. I believe women should always have the right to choose for themselves. No one else should be able to dictate that a woman have a child or abort. Its an individual decision. But personally I would never have an abortion, unless I knew carrying to term would likely kill me or the fetus would be born a baby with severe issues.

I've seen two of my children from week 6 through just about birth on ultrasound, and am pregnant with my third (18.5 weeks). I know that their lives while in utero, where precious to *me* and my DH. They are even more precious once born. But...I also can imagine not wanting to be pregnant and not feeling that way at all (say if I had gotten pregnant as a teenager). And I'd *never* ever want to make a woman feel shame, or additional pain over her choice. Its her choice.

MM

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Sun, 06-17-2007 - 1:31am

"But people who are pro life are anti abortion"

With all due respect, MM...while I am prolife, I am not anti abortion. There are times where abortion is appropriate. When the mother's life is in danger. If a child becomes pregnant. Those are two such cases...there could be others, but it is very late and I am tired....but these are two areas of gray...it is not ALL black and white.

Sue

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