Pro-life Dominate

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Pro-life Dominate
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Sun, 05-17-2009 - 12:30pm

Saw that and wanted to know everyones take on it.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30771408/?GT1=43001

 

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Sun, 05-17-2009 - 12:58pm
Doesn't mean thing to me, as I believe that the right to autonomously choose our health care procedures and risks is an inherent right that exists regardless of other peoples' opinions. IOW- no one gets to vote on the condition and contents of my uterus but me.
We don't give rights to all races and to both men and women based on popular vote and/or opinion. Women's health care is also not a consensus for the masses.
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Sun, 05-17-2009 - 3:05pm
I agree with the previous post. I also find it interesting that, although 51% of people claim to be pro-life, only 23% seek to make abortion illegal. Based on those statistics, it would seem that half of the "pro-life" movement is actually pro-choice. While they aren't crazy about abortion (and honestly, who is?) they certainly don't want to make it illegal.
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Sun, 05-17-2009 - 4:40pm

 

~~~Ever mind the rule of three, Three times what thou givest returns to thee..This lesson well thou must learn. Thee only gets what thou doest earn.~~~~

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Registered: 11-29-2005
Sun, 05-17-2009 - 8:02pm

First, it appears that there's a large margin of error on this:



Planned Parenthood also noted that another recent national survey, a CNN/Opinion Research Corp., poll in April, reported 49 percent of respondents identifying as pro-choice and 45 percent as pro-life.


Second, as a PP

 


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Sun, 05-17-2009 - 8:16pm

Polls are highly unscientific.


However with so much more education we are seeing the primitive thinking of the days of Roe become obsolete. Ultrasound gave personhood to many in the womb, something we couldn't do back in the 70's.

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Sun, 05-17-2009 - 8:52pm

<< I feel its degrading to call your own offspring "uterine contents." Its a human, but I understand its a way to disconnect from reality. >>

Really? Because aside from 2 pregnancies in which the uterine contents were either expelled, scraped or suctioned out during D&Cs after miscarriage, the other four became perfectly delightful children of mine. No disconnect going on here. But I won't glorify and romanticize pregnancy and its affects on a woman in so many ways, nor equate a zygote/embryo or early fetus with a neonate either.

In fact it offends me when a z/e/f is equated in worth to a fully born child. I've lost an embryo and a fetus to miscarriage, and a 6 yr old who died in my arms - and there is NO comparison whatsoever. And quite frankly, anyone who says there is... either hasn't been there, or if they have and persist in that belief, does grave disrespect to their born children by that comparison, IMHO. I'll respect your/their right to disagree, but I'll not budge from that assertion one iota.

I lived all six of those pregnancies, felt every ache and pain and was on bedrest during each and every one of them for bleeding, and was hospitalized on bedrest for a month with the last due to PROM. I would NEVER support laws that force a woman to either gestate and give birth or abort against her express will and consent, due to the unique and inherent short and long term risks associated with either choice.

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I disagree. When the government can assume all of the short and long term risk for the duration of my natural life, they get a vote- Til then, no vote.

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Reproductive rights are not a state issue. They are an inherent right of each woman to determine her own health care and risks that she chooses to assume and undergo.

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-protection of human life and when it begins.>>

When the fetus is separated from the body of the woman and poses no risk to her well-being, it is accorded FULL civil rights of its own accord.

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Basically NUNIYA. (None of your business, LOL.)

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Universal halth care would nmake this a moot point.

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Good points. However, make reproductive healthcare choices constitutionally protected rights, take them out of the hands of the individual states and voters, establish universal health care, and leave women to choose their own risks. And it will all make perfect sense again.

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Registered: 04-19-2006
Sun, 05-17-2009 - 10:57pm

>>I agree with the previous post. I also find it interesting that, although 51% of people claim to be pro-life, only 23% seek to make abortion illegal. Based on those statistics, it would seem that half of the "pro-life" movement is actually pro-choice. While they aren't crazy about abortion (and honestly, who is?) they certainly don't want to make it illegal.<

Or another possibility is that like myself they don't see the point of making it illegal. I am not pro choice because I don't believe elective abortion is a right, but I am realist and know illealizing it won't make it go away any more that it made marijuana go away. So I concentrate my efforts where they will do teh most good, prevention and support. If abortion is made illegal tomorrow it wont stop the need for the two things I already mentioned.

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Mon, 05-18-2009 - 1:19am

"I feel its degrading to call your own offspring "uterine contents." Its a

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Mon, 05-18-2009 - 1:28am
I see what you're saying and I agree that there are probably a lot of people that just don't see the point in making it illegal. And I think that's part of the reason why saying that the country is "pro-life dominate" is misleading. I think the term "pro-life" is too vague and
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Mon, 05-18-2009 - 2:00am

~I feel its degrading to call your own offspring "uterine contents." Its a

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