Pro-lifers listen up!

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Registered: 10-10-2003
Pro-lifers listen up!
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Wed, 10-29-2003 - 10:33am
I am probably going to get myself in a lot of trouble just by posting here.....

I am pro-life through and through. I do not believe that there is ANY reason to justify the voluntary termination of a child (or fetus what ever PCers choose to call it these days).

However, it bothers me that so many pro-lifers like myself tend to focus on laws for abortions.

The truth is, we are probably never going to make abortion illegal again. We can put restrictions on it and we can even outlaw certain procedures, but the fact remains that abortion is here to stay- a *safe* and legal eyesore on the American family.

Pro-choice advocaters have a stronghold on us in saying that we don't care about women, only the child they are carrying. That's not true and we know it! But how are we showing it?

Picketing abortion centers doesn't prove we care about women. Neither does passing laws resticting abortions.

The only way that we are to change anything is by speaking directly to the only person that matters-- the woman who is in need.

You can do this by showing that woman that even though she MAY have made a mistake, she is still loved and cared for.

The next time that a troubled teen comes to you try directing her to a crisis pregnancy center that offers options other than abortion. We had a wonderful one in my hometown sponsered by Help Minstries. They offered counseling (including post-abortive), help finding adoptive families and physical support. They had rooms full of diapers, clothes, and food. They would even help women to fill out government aid forms and suggest child care centers.

Even if they still decide to have an abortion, you can prove that you care by sticking by their side through the experience. This is especially good if they start to regret the decision they made.

Remember that no one is going to care if abortion is legal if there aren't any women who want one.

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Registered: 06-11-2003
Wed, 10-29-2003 - 11:39am
in my every day life, I do not care how what or why about a woman getting pregnant. it matter little to me the cause. I volunteer at a ministry(although, I myself am not a part of the church nor your typical christian(I also beleive in Mother Earth as being another aspect of God...complcated)that caters merely to the needs of anyone who is pregnant...no questions asked not about the father, income, anything. we are simply there to help. Our town has a wonderful support system trough several minsitries(that do not force God down your throat), town sponsored programmes, food pantries, rent assistance, and of course government programmes. So if a woman or girl get's pregnant and get's pointed in the right direction she need not fear that either she,nor her child to be or existing children need go hungry..without a roof...or cold. It just takes a little will power and work on her part to participate in what is avaiable and not give up on herself.
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Registered: 03-19-2003
Wed, 10-29-2003 - 1:31pm

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ANY? Including rape, incest, risk to the mother's health, risk to the mother's life, or in cases of fetal abnormality?

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 10-29-2003 - 3:58pm
Good luck! I am PC. If anyone were to come to me with the news of an unwanted pregnancy I wouldn't direct them straight to the clinic. Is that what you are suggesting a PC person does? I would tell them that they have several options, and yes, abortion is one of them.

So there are diapers available and government aid. Who is going to be there at 3am when this 16 year old girl is living in a roach infested apartment with a crying baby and no food for the child? Who is going to fund that child's college education? Who is going to help the young mom get through high school? Who is going to teach her to respect herself and not give it up to someone who gets what he wants and then walks away when the consequences are an unwanted child? I doubt it's going to be the people picketing the clinic.

Maybe you(not you personally) know that the child isn't the only one that you are concerned with. But all I see is a fanatic bombing a clinic and killing people for the *greater good*.

Let's face it. We don't live in a perfect world. If we did then people would think about the ramifications of having unprotected sex. There would be no world hunger and there would be peace. And best of all there would be noone trying to push their views of what is right and wrong on those that just want to have a choice!


Edited 10/29/2003 6:15:38 PM ET by suzenerica

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Registered: 06-11-2003
Wed, 10-29-2003 - 4:30pm
"Who is going to be there at 3am when this 16 year old girl is living in a roach infested apartment with a crying baby and no food for the child? Who is going to fund that child's college education? Who is going to help the young mom get through high school? Who is going to teach her to respect herself and not give it up to someone who gets what he wants and then walks away when the consequences are an unwanted child? cI doubt it's going to be the people picketing the clinic. "


ONE: "Who is going to be there at 3am when this 16 year old girl is living in a roach infested apartment with a crying baby and no food for the child?"

her roomates, her mom, her friends, the guy who got her pregnant, the guys parents, a church memeber of the local community, a volunteer from a pregnancy assistance ministry..... why would she be living in a cockroach infested apartment? and there is this thing called W.I.C. women infants and children which help provide nutrition for women and infants and small children as well as food pantries, food stamps(trust me, you cannot starve on food stamps unless you are incredibly silly and have NO shopping sense)

TWO:"Who is going to fund that child's college education? " a college education is not all important, the child's being loved and nurtered will get it further in life. but the girl herself through diligent and hard work probably could get there herself as well someday pay for the child's education. it is not impossible only people's attitudes can make it so.

THREE:"Who is going to teach her to respect herself and not give it up to someone who gets what he wants and then walks away when the consequences are an unwanted child"

hopefully lifes lessons, possibly all those folks mentioned above, HERSELF..you sure do cut young women short don't you?

FOUR :"cI doubt it's going to be the people picketing the clinic. "

try giving them a chance why don't you? do you help young pregnant women? many people who are adamantly PL also participate in programmes to help those young women make it.

all in all I think you give young women very little credit and quite frankly, none of those things you suggested are reason to KILL an unborn fetus/child/etc. NONE OF THEM. there is help out there if you are willing to look for it, work for it, get to it......

again and as always...choice means that someone has to DIE for it. sick.

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Registered: 10-05-2003
Wed, 10-29-2003 - 4:39pm

GREAT post>>> n/t

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 10-29-2003 - 4:43pm
"I do not believe that there is ANY reason to justify the voluntary termination of a child (or fetus what ever PCers choose to call it these days)."

So, I was raped when I was 13. If I had gotten pregnant, abortion shouldnt have been an option? Is that how you feel?

Or how about a woman who will likely die if she carries to term? No abortion?

As for "child" vs. fetus, the term is fetus. It isnt what "PCers choose to call *it*" its what *it* is. Over 90% of abortions take place in the first trimester. There is a world of difference between an 11 week old fetus, and an 11 week old baby/child. But obviously calling a fetus a child, and hence abortion = murder, suits your agenda. Just know its transparent rhetoric that actually *dumbs down* any intelligent argument you *might* put forth.

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Registered: 10-05-2003
Wed, 10-29-2003 - 4:48pm
I dont think that is any human's
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Wed, 10-29-2003 - 4:51pm
I had a good childhood..and my parents were not wealthy. There was no college fund..does that mean I should have been aborted? Is that the measure of a good parent..how much money you have? Wow..here I thought it was about love..and sacrafice..and being there..and doing the best you can with your given circumstances. It's unlikely that my kids will have huge amounts of money in their college funds..if any. When they go will I help out as much as I can? Of course I will...but not handing them 100,000$ when they graduate does not mean I'm not worthy to have a child.

OH..and by the way...many planned children are abused..so are rich kids..being planned and having money does not guarantee a happy childhood.

Oh...and believe it or not...I managed to go to college anyway..and even get a degree..go figure!
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 10-29-2003 - 5:07pm
How many young people do you know of that have that kind of support system? If you couldn't tell, I was being a little dramatic. But what I stated is a possibility. Not everyone lives in Mayberry. As for a college education not being important- well all the love in the world ain't gonna pay the bills. And I have to say it all sounds rather glamorous- WIC, food pantries, food stamps- ahhh all the good things in life.

And who are you to say that I give young women very little credit? You know nothing about me or my life.

Yes, there is help out there. Help in all forms including abortion. Just because you say it isn't right doesn't make it so.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 10-29-2003 - 5:13pm
I'm confused. I didn't post anything about children that are wanted or rich people or anything like that.

My parents weren't rich either and there was no college fund. I also managed to get my degree. What does that mean?

I agree that the measure of a good parent is love and devotion. But shouldn't the DESIRE to be a parent factor in somewhere?

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