A Question for the Pro-Choicers

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A Question for the Pro-Choicers
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Mon, 09-22-2008 - 12:35pm

After lurking on these debates for a while, I've come to the conclusion that there would be little I could say or do to change anyone's mind, however I AM interested to know some more information of Pro-Choicers reasons for their beliefs.

So, after reading a lot of the posts, I've noticed that there have been a lot of pro-choicers who bring up the issue of women's health, and the subsequent termination of the pregnancy (i.e., baby is potentially putting mamma's health at risk by her carrying it to full term).

My issue is not with this. I am a pro-lifer, and were I to conceive an ectopic pregnancy, I would sadly have to abort it because there is very little chance the baby would survive, and I most likely not survive as well. This view is supported by my religion, so these are not the circumstances I am talking about.

We all know that there a lot of abortions happening all the time. I'm not gonna pretend I know the numbers, but I'm gonna throw the idea out there that a lot of these abortions happen to viable pregnancies because of other concerns of the mother (assuming that the risks of carrying the fetus to term would be no more than an average pregnancy for an average woman).

So my question is this: If people are speaking of the woman in question, who decides to abort her average pregnancy for whatever reason (there are multitudes of reasons she might, I'm not even gonna try to throw in some examples) and saying that "it is her right, after all, her health could be endangered", what about all the risks of abortion itself?

Here is a link I found, that lists quite a few possible complications from abortion:
http://www.deveber.org/text/whealth.html
I'm sure there is more out there, I just thought that this could be a place to start.

The complications preceding from an aborted fetus COULD far outweigh the risks of carrying the child full term. In fact, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that a lot of the complications women have with their pregnancies could be avoided if they'd never had an abortion to begin with! (Incompetent cervix, pre-term birth, higher risks of ectopic pregnancies, to name just a few). This is of course an assumption on my part. Of course there will be always risks in pregnancy, but I almost wonder if women really are aware of all the risks when they do have one?

depression, possible suicide, infertility, cerebral palsy in your future children, cervical cancers, actual death... wow, these factors may be the woman's individual right to choose, but it is a strain on our health care system nonetheless. When your current and future children are at risk as well, abortion goes far beyond simply impacting the woman's health. It affects her partner, kids, and her country. So yes, she has a choice, but should it be so easy and socially acceptable given all the risks? People have been having babies in far greater numbers to abortions in the past societies leading up to this one, and it's gotten us to where we are today. Do we have an issue here or don't we?

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Wed, 10-08-2008 - 4:08pm
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"Not sure if this is universal."


It's not. The PP where I got my BCP for several years did not do any type of surgical procedure. They did pills, Depo, and I think IUD's.>>



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Wed, 10-08-2008 - 6:31pm
Yeah, I realized later that I had mistaken what you were referring to. I thought the "slight hassle" to which you referred was the process to obtain a TL through PP. Forgive me, for I automatically assumed you would not be referencing bunfreeoven's IUD options, as she's said several times she patently does not want to have one.

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Wed, 10-08-2008 - 10:11pm

I just meant that based on my conversation with PP should Lori ( or another CFBC) woman want an IUD she could get on at PP with little hassle based on what I was told by my specific branch of PP. Tubals I'm not sure of as I didn't ask. I'm getting my tubal thru my primary care doctor. Unfortunately my Primary care doctor only runs the BC clinic on fridays and I would have had to wait 2 months to get my IUD, and being newly post Partum that wasn't a hassle I wanted to deal with so I went to PP and picked thier brains.

I know Lori *specifically* doesn't want an IUD but I still felt it was valuable information for any other CFBC members of the boards ( or anyone who knew someone CFBC) who wanted an IUD and was running into walls with thier own Dr.

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Wed, 10-08-2008 - 11:04pm

""I'm sure you meant 'in SEARCH of the poison ivy and spiders'....""


Good Heavens no.

** Lori **

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Thu, 10-09-2008 - 6:19am
Hey I thought I was the only one with a rider. I have conquest (I can get sworn statements from anyone who ever got in a battle of wills with DS)
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Thu, 10-09-2008 - 9:03pm
I guess I have War and Death... Go figure.


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Thu, 10-09-2008 - 11:33pm

It's a good thing I'm home alone with the cats, or my dh would think I've lost my mind~~I've been LMAO, pounding on the desk reading all of this. It's good to see Colleen back. I demand that she do that blinkie too! That would be just too purfect

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Fri, 10-10-2008 - 6:27pm
I had an abortion (at 6 wks) about 5 years ago, and have not ONCE come to regret my decision. To me it wasn't a health issue but the fact that I couldn't have a child at the time (I had a 1 yr old DS and abusive ex-husband had just gone to jail. I was by myself in a new state, etc.) So I decided it was the best thing for my DS and for my own sake. I am now remarried and have a 1 yr old DD. Was I ever scared that God would punish me and I would never be able to get pregnant again? you bet, but at those times I thought about my situation then and that reassured me. Can anyone change my mind? nope GOD BLESS AMERICA!

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