A Question for the Pro-Choicers

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A Question for the Pro-Choicers
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Mon, 09-22-2008 - 12:35pm

After lurking on these debates for a while, I've come to the conclusion that there would be little I could say or do to change anyone's mind, however I AM interested to know some more information of Pro-Choicers reasons for their beliefs.

So, after reading a lot of the posts, I've noticed that there have been a lot of pro-choicers who bring up the issue of women's health, and the subsequent termination of the pregnancy (i.e., baby is potentially putting mamma's health at risk by her carrying it to full term).

My issue is not with this. I am a pro-lifer, and were I to conceive an ectopic pregnancy, I would sadly have to abort it because there is very little chance the baby would survive, and I most likely not survive as well. This view is supported by my religion, so these are not the circumstances I am talking about.

We all know that there a lot of abortions happening all the time. I'm not gonna pretend I know the numbers, but I'm gonna throw the idea out there that a lot of these abortions happen to viable pregnancies because of other concerns of the mother (assuming that the risks of carrying the fetus to term would be no more than an average pregnancy for an average woman).

So my question is this: If people are speaking of the woman in question, who decides to abort her average pregnancy for whatever reason (there are multitudes of reasons she might, I'm not even gonna try to throw in some examples) and saying that "it is her right, after all, her health could be endangered", what about all the risks of abortion itself?

Here is a link I found, that lists quite a few possible complications from abortion:
http://www.deveber.org/text/whealth.html
I'm sure there is more out there, I just thought that this could be a place to start.

The complications preceding from an aborted fetus COULD far outweigh the risks of carrying the child full term. In fact, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that a lot of the complications women have with their pregnancies could be avoided if they'd never had an abortion to begin with! (Incompetent cervix, pre-term birth, higher risks of ectopic pregnancies, to name just a few). This is of course an assumption on my part. Of course there will be always risks in pregnancy, but I almost wonder if women really are aware of all the risks when they do have one?

depression, possible suicide, infertility, cerebral palsy in your future children, cervical cancers, actual death... wow, these factors may be the woman's individual right to choose, but it is a strain on our health care system nonetheless. When your current and future children are at risk as well, abortion goes far beyond simply impacting the woman's health. It affects her partner, kids, and her country. So yes, she has a choice, but should it be so easy and socially acceptable given all the risks? People have been having babies in far greater numbers to abortions in the past societies leading up to this one, and it's gotten us to where we are today. Do we have an issue here or don't we?

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Wed, 09-24-2008 - 9:54am

You're a genius!


Paradigm, it's called

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Wed, 09-24-2008 - 12:48pm

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I used to feel that way, too!

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Wed, 09-24-2008 - 12:52pm

There's also "Essure".

"It is right to be contented with what we have, but never with what we are."

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Wed, 09-24-2008 - 2:34pm
My sister had something similar done (she had the sort of endometriosis (sp) that caused the fibrous tissue to grow inside her uterus).

 

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Wed, 09-24-2008 - 6:17pm

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Wed, 09-24-2008 - 7:19pm
ITA! VERY well said. Without full access to options and full choice, a woman is relegated to the chattel of patriarchy. As we once were. Not over my dead body! I don't want that slavery of women to ever return. I don't want patriarchy for my daughter or her future female children, if she chooses to have them. It would be devolution, indeed, to enslave women through controlling or eliminating their reproductive choices. BTDT. No more!


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Wed, 09-24-2008 - 10:40pm

I lost a cousin to a illegal abortion, and I don't want to see us go back to losing young women again. She was a wonderful young lady who had a disability that was past from male to female, the state didn't think it was a good enough reason to allow her to abort. My family had a reunion just a year ago and we talked about her, all of we female cousin agreed that we needed to keep abortion safe and legal in her memory.

So no more coat hangers.

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Wed, 09-24-2008 - 11:26pm

>I'm such a birth control princess.<

ever hear of a little self love? no birth control needed & alot less messier

~Sam

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Wed, 09-24-2008 - 11:34pm

""ever hear of a little self love? no birth control needed & alot less messier"""


I'm a military wife.

** Lori **

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Wed, 09-24-2008 - 11:52pm

I knew you would get my silliness~~I just saw that and had to run with it (had a really hard day on the bus with the kiddo's and need some giggling on my part~~my dh had to come in and ask me why I was LOL) but of course we girls all knew about self-love, it's when the dh's drink too much beer and fall asleep again. (or in my case I have to go to bed before him 5 night a week)

~Sam

~~Sam stitches well with others, runs with scissors in her pocket. Cheerful and stupid.

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