Question for Pro-Lifers

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Question for Pro-Lifers
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Thu, 02-26-2009 - 2:05pm

I'd like to know how pro-lifers feel about vaccinations. Which of you vaccinate? Which of you don't? Why or why not?

I'm asking here instead of the Vaccine Debate Board because of the number of people here I'm certain are pro-life and I'm looking for some answers and correlations.

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Registered: 09-09-2007
Fri, 02-27-2009 - 3:17pm

No problem.

Here's the other ingredients:

Vaccine Fillers and Ingredients
In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, vaccine fillers and ingredients include:
aluminum hydroxide
aluminum phosphate
ammonium sulfate
amphotericin B
animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
dog kidney, monkey kidney,
chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
calf (bovine) serum
betapropiolactone
fetal bovine serum
formaldehyde
formalin
gelatin
glycerol
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
hydrolized gelatin
monosodium glutamate (MSG)
neomycin
neomycin sulfate
phenol red indicator
phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
potassium diphosphate
potassium monophosphate
polymyxin B
polysorbate 20
polysorbate 80
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
residual MRC5 proteins
sorbitol
sucrose
thimerosal (mercury)
tri(n)butylphosphate
VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
washed sheep red blood cells.

Pretty disgusting stuff.

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Sat, 02-28-2009 - 6:36am


Most of which is used in other medicines that no-one turns a hair at.


I've never understood why people are perfectly happy to eat eggs and meat but come over all odd when animal products are used in vaccines.


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Registered: 09-09-2007
Sun, 03-01-2009 - 1:24am

"Most of which is used in other medicines that no-one turns a hair at."

I know plenty irl, including my family, that "turns a hair" at most medicines.

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Sun, 03-01-2009 - 1:32am

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Edited 3/8/2009 12:50 am ET by oh_kate
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Sun, 03-01-2009 - 10:40am

Pl and I do some vaccinations.

I really have no issue from them being derived from fetal remains because the feti are not being aborted just to grow more vaccines. IIRC they were aborted a long time ago and the remains were used (and possibly continue to be)

I liken it to organ donation. If my child was on a donor list I would not turn down tissues just because someone had to die for him to get them. I would be sad for the person who had to loose their life so my son could survive but I would also be eternally grateful to that person who even in death helped others.

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Sun, 03-01-2009 - 1:18pm
So, by that rationale, if the vaccines were being made with fetal tissue from current legal abortions you would be okay with that? I'm just trying to understand if the reasoning is that the abortions were so long ago or "make lemonade out of lemons" type reasoning. Honestly I feel like the latter reasoning and likening it to organ donation is a cop out. I'm not pl but one could argue that an organ donor makes the choice to be such but an unborn child doesn't make the choice to be aborted and used for vaccines. See where I'm going with this? IMO, a person who claims to be pl but has no problem with vaccines might be more easily swayed in their pl stance.
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Sun, 03-01-2009 - 1:23pm

"I've never understood why people are perfectly happy to eat eggs and meat but come over all odd when animal products are used in vaccines. "

I would say that this very much has to do with the difference between ingestion and injection.

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Sun, 03-01-2009 - 1:42pm

If they were performing abortions JUST to get cells I would have an issue with it. However as far as I know no women were impregnated with the intent to abort the fetus and use it for research so since the fetus dies anyways yeah make some lemonade out of the lemons.

>>I'm not pl but one could argue that an organ donor makes the choice to be such but an unborn child doesn't make the choice to be aborted and used for vaccines<<

Not always parents make that decision for minors. Just as a woman can consent on behalf of a fetus that was aborted or miscarried to have the remains used for science.

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Sun, 03-01-2009 - 1:48pm
Hmmmm, this line of thought is very interesting to me. I wonder if vegans and vegetarians have a problem with vaccines. Using your rationale, they should have no problem with them. I'm going to have to find a vegan board now...
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Sun, 03-01-2009 - 2:38pm

>>I'm not pl but one could argue that an organ donor makes the choice to be such but an unborn child doesn't make the choice to be aborted and used for vaccines<<

Not always parents make that decision for minors. Just as a woman can consent on behalf of a fetus that was aborted or miscarried to have the remains used for science.>>>>>

Exactly. My son is alive because of a child and teenager- he has received an artery from each. The children didn't make the choice, the parents did. He will be 8 at the end of the month and I am eternally grateful to the parents who made that choice. I have organ donor on my DL, as does my husband, and if we ever have the terrible experience of losing our children I hope that as many parts as possible could be used from their bodies to give the gift that we have been given.


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