Question for Pro-Lifers

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Registered: 09-09-2007
Question for Pro-Lifers
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Thu, 02-26-2009 - 2:05pm

I'd like to know how pro-lifers feel about vaccinations. Which of you vaccinate? Which of you don't? Why or why not?

I'm asking here instead of the Vaccine Debate Board because of the number of people here I'm certain are pro-life and I'm looking for some answers and correlations.

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Registered: 04-19-2006
Mon, 03-02-2009 - 2:45pm

>>Hypothetically, if the abortions were recent (not for that sole purpose but recent nonetheless) would it affect your decision or is it still "lemonade out of lemons"?<<

Probably not although it may. As long as abortions are not being preformed to get at the cells I don't have much issue. The embryo has already been aborted so what does it hurt.

When I had a surgical abortion for an ectopic pregnancy a few years ago I gave them carte blanche to take pictures of my insides and to do what they wanted with anything they took out of me (including testing and research). Now I have no idea if they actually used anything but if they decided to use the embryo to grow fancy new vaccines I have no issue with that. The pregnancy was already done for as soon as it implanted in the tube.

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Mon, 03-02-2009 - 2:53pm
In your answer you have demonstrated the different levels of pl views. I wonder about plers who are so against abortions that they would condemn you for having one even in your circumstances. I know they exist, I've seen it on this board. I wish one of those "fanatic" plers would answer my questions.
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Mon, 03-02-2009 - 3:19pm

I wasn't being rude. I was being direct. Using someone's logic IRT to abortion and vaccinations to apply to vegetarians/vegans and vaccination (with a reference to going and finding some people who would clearly prove you right and her wrong) is pretty weak argumentation.

And your claim that based on her logic, all vegetarians/vegans would believe the same thing does not indicate that you understand there are variations in such belief systems.




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Registered: 09-09-2007
Mon, 03-02-2009 - 3:43pm

You must have misunderstood my posts.

I'm sorry you felt that I was going to find people to "prove me right". Not the case in nthe slightest. I am asking these questions with an open mind, not to be proven right. My line of thinking irt vegan/vegetarian came from the pl/pc conversations irt ingredients. The pl/pc side of vaccines came to my mind first and after the discussion began and I looked more into it I realized that another group who's beliefs on vaccines may be based on beliefs on other things might be vegans/vegetarians. My "theory" was that if plers have a problem with vaccines because of the aborted fetus factor then maybe vegans have a problem with them because of the animal biproduct factor. I've said in pp that I'm here to collect opinions and will add that I really am not here to debate vaccines. I have the vaccination debate board for that and figure if any of you wanted to debate vaccines then you'd go there as well. I'm asking these questions because I figured the bigger percentage of plers would possibly be on this board. Perhaps I should visit one of the Christian boards.(possibility of plers may be high)

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Tue, 03-03-2009 - 2:51am

Not as far as I know.


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Registered: 02-06-2009
Tue, 03-03-2009 - 2:56am


Overmedication and overdiagnosis do seem to be a problem in the US from what I've read. I know that your vaccination schedule includes a LOT more shots than ours does. But what do you consider a completely useless medicine?



Although many medical advances do not involve medication, all medications are the result of a medical advance.


Edited because I can't get my sentences right!!


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Registered: 02-06-2009
Tue, 03-03-2009 - 2:58am

I see, thank you for explaining.


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Registered: 09-09-2007
Tue, 03-03-2009 - 10:33am

You're right. It is a problem here. Though, from some research, it seems to be a bit of a problem in the UK as well. IMO, many psychiatric drugs are "useless". Here's a site that talks about that in the UK.
http://blog.cleveland.com/health/2008/02/report_antidepressants_are_use.html

Perhaps I should rephrase and say that there are times when a medication is useless or pointless. Maybe that would explain my thoughts better. I think that often antibiotics are useless. I think that often allergy medications are useless. In addition, to further explain, I'm considering the word useless in this context to mean very very unnecessary. Of course, if a drug does no more than a placebo it's useless but as well, if a drug is given when it doesn't need to be given it is useless (and possibly reckless).

I haven't been awake long, I hope this makes some sense!

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Registered: 04-19-2006
Tue, 03-03-2009 - 11:35am
I know they exist I have seen them here as well. Most PL's I know though are a bit more practical about it though and have the common sense to realize a dead woman can't gestate
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Tue, 03-03-2009 - 12:01pm
LoL, you're right. There are those that don't seem to get that, aren't there!
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