Quick question for omom-5

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Quick question for omom-5
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Mon, 03-23-2009 - 10:34am
I've read through alot of the post made here, and I would like to know what you purpose a married couple who have been denied sterilaztion, inspite of the affects hormones have on the woman, do other than not have sex?
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Mon, 03-23-2009 - 11:21am
I think we've all been waiting on some answers from her...but she's been gone for a while. Good luck!

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Mon, 03-23-2009 - 11:56am

As Melissa said, she hasn't been on for awhile. But I had had a discussion with her in the monster thread, and she personally uses NFP (natural family planning) and she was a major proponent of others using it, so I imagine that's what she'd recommend. She'd say the woman would need to learn her cycle and then avoid intercourse during those times. She actually argued that regular abstention was good for a marriage. I believe "makes the heart grow fonder" was her specific statement.

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Mon, 03-23-2009 - 6:51pm
You see I got that same response from another person in RL and I just don't understand how they can say it's about faith and doing god's will and so forth, but they ignore the bible all together, and the fact that there are parts that only give value to a baby after it has been alive for a month, and every verse that mentions the mother dying while pregnant says that the person must pay for the mother's life and a small fee for the loss of the pregnancy, the mother's life trumps the pregnancy.
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Tue, 03-24-2009 - 1:09am

There were a lot of questions she didn't answer. I think it might have been the fact that she got a deluge of them. I, for one, wanted to know how someone like me could effectively use NFP to prevent pregnancy. I have a 10-month-old, am still breastfeeding many, many times a day, and have cycles that last anywhere between 1.5 weeks and two months. I have no idea when my fertile time is. Maybe I'm fertile the whole time or maybe I'm not fertile at all right now.

I'm having a tough enough time as the grad student mother of an infant; I don't need to be the pregnant grad student mother of an infant.




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Fri, 03-27-2009 - 11:08pm

Hi rholmes, I'm not omom, but I am a conservative Christian who is PL so maybe I can answer some of your questions like she might have.

The issue of BC is very controversial among evangelicals. Many believe that any form of BC is wrong, while others believe condoms and NFP is ok (i.e. non-hormonal), and of course others who believe any form of BC is ok (except abortion, of course). The fact is is that BC is just not mentioned in the Bible. I personally would tell you, as one who studies the Bible and reads the Bible regularly, that your best bet would be NFP or condoms. Learn your cycle and know when you are most fertile, and abstain during those days. I, personally, believe hormonal BC should be avoided because it can be abortifacent (is that how you spell that?? lol) SOMETIMES, so if you're looking to not abort, then I wouldn't recommend using them. But of course, we all know that even the pill and other forms of BC are not 100% guaranteed to prevent conception. In those rare cases, I would have to say that God had already determined that little life was to be created and that He loves him or her even while he/she is being formed in the womb and he/she has a purpose in this world.


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Fri, 03-27-2009 - 11:16pm

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If God wanted every life that was concieved to be born then things like Miscarriages would never happen.

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Fri, 03-27-2009 - 11:20pm

>>I just don't understand how they can say it's about faith and doing god's will and so forth, but they ignore the bible all together, and the fact that there are parts that only give value to a baby after it has been alive for a month, and every verse that mentions the mother dying while pregnant says that the person must pay for the mother's life and a small fee for the loss of the pregnancy, the mother's life trumps the pregnancy. <<

If you don't mind, I'd like to know which Scriptures you're referring to. And it has nothing to do with who's life "trumps" who's. All human life is precious and equal to God, because, of course, He created it for His glory. The Bible says that even when wicked people are killed, God does not delight in it (Ezekiel 18:23), as He would rather them live and do good. Life is life, period. An 8 week old baby has a beating heart, seperate DNA, and is an entirely separate entity from the mother. I mean, heck, we gotta start out somewhere!!!


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Sat, 03-28-2009 - 12:08am

"and is an entirely separate entity from the mother."

With the addendum that it is entirely enveloped by the mother and 100% dependent on the mother's body for survival. I wouldn't exactly call that "separate."

I wonder why some people consistently leave that out. It's as if they think women are just pushing the fetus around in a shopping cart for several months.




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Sat, 03-28-2009 - 3:50am

Gladly.


Genesis 38:24 If the life of her fetus was so special why would they have went ahead with the burning her alive, had they not found out whom impregnanted her (only THEN did they care).


Exodus 13:1-2 "The Lord said to Moses, 'Consecrate to me every firstborn male. The first offspring of every womb among the Israelites belongs to me, whether man or animal.'" Throughout much of the ancient Middle East, the firstborn son in each family was ritually murdered as a sacrifice to the Gods.

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Sat, 03-28-2009 - 4:53am


She might be talking about Exodus 21:22-23


If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,


As you can see, the punishment for causing a woman to miscarry was a fine. I'm sure you're aware that under the Mosaic law, murder was punishable by death.