Racist conspiracy?

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Racist conspiracy?
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Fri, 03-05-2010 - 11:11am

It just stuns me that people are still thinking this way. Of course, I was shocked too when a Jewish family I know had a swastika put on their car recently too.


'Womb lynchings': right-to-lifers say abortion is a racist conspiracy


WASHINGTON: Anti-abortion activists have been accused of exploiting America's tragic racial history with a growing campaign to persuade black women that the high rate of terminations among African Americans is a racist conspiracy on a par with slavery and lynching.


The campaign, launched in Georgia, targets the black community with rallies, meetings and now billboards in Atlanta that describe black children as an endangered species and accuse abortion providers of targeting African Americans for what are described as ''womb lynchings''.


The strategy has also focused on the fact that one of the country's leading abortion providers, Planned Parenthood, was founded by a woman who was a leading proponent of eugenics, a belief that the human gene pool could be improved by selective breeding and sterilisation, and who heavily promoted birth control among blacks.


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http://www.smh.com.au/world/womb-lynchings-righttolifers-say-abortion-is-a-racist-conspiracy-20100305-porb.html


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Registered: 06-24-2009
Thu, 03-11-2010 - 8:32am

< People don't want to solve the cause so they try to solve for the effect. >

Yep - I wanted to point out to Postreply that "gender genocide" had no relationship whatsoever to this issue, other than in Post's twisted view of Cause and Effect when it comes to when and if women decide to have a baby.

In Post's, and other similar PL's minds, abortion is the CAUSE of women not wanting to have a baby, not the Effect. Selective abortions due to gender are an EFFECT of devaluing women, not the cause of it.

It's like saying that the fact that divorce is legal causes marriages to go bad, and that banning divorce will make marriages happy. And we've seen in countries where divorce is banned, domestic violence and infidelity grow exponentially...

Just as in countries where abortion is made difficult to get - women still have sex, still have pregnancies that they do not want to complete - in the same percentage as countries where abortion is legal. But the deaths and maiming of women due to abortions is much higher.

That's where PL "compassion" runs dry - they just don't think those women deserve to live or have good medical care.

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Tue, 03-09-2010 - 5:24pm

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LOL!

As you've indicated, in India and China, the problem is not abortion, it's the mechanism. Instead, the problem is extreme misogyny. The women who now selectively abort based on gender would, if abortion was no longer available, simply go back to what they did before- abandon infant girls at orphanages, leave them to die somewhere, or kill them.

It's masking. Making abortion illegal for this particular reason would be like banning women from the workplace because some workplaces are hazardous to pregnant women. People don't want to solve the cause so they try to solve for the effect. There's a nice SCOTUS precedent on that one, too.




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Registered: 06-24-2009
Mon, 03-08-2010 - 2:05pm

Preventing women from getting safe abortions in India will no more changes attitudes towards women than banning the sale of rope in the south pre-civil rights would have changed the attitudes of lynch mobs.

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Registered: 06-24-2009
Mon, 03-08-2010 - 10:17am

< Check out India sometime with regards to gender genocide. >

Not sure what the connection to this case is - are you saying that women that find out their fetus is black would have selective abortions until they have a white one?

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Registered: 06-24-2009
Mon, 03-08-2010 - 10:15am

{ I should point out that not all anti-abortion activists are white, and in fact one of the groups posting these ads has African Americans as their spokesmen. }

Yes, she was paid, she didn't volunteer..

" Georgia Right to Life hired a black woman, Catherine Davis, to push the message that abortion is a successor to slavery and lynching."

To continue the point...all white supremiacist groups are pro-forced childbearing, and the far right wing is overwhelmingly white. Look at photos of hasslers outside of clinics - you won't find many African American faces in that crowd. Angry white right wingers are generally not a crowd that welcomes African Americans. This is why it's ironic when they all of the sudden start "standing up" for African Americans. I think a few years back, this homophobic crowd started telling Gays that "soon women will be able to tell if their unborn baby is gay, and abort it - we're here fighting for YOUR rights. I think that lasted about 10 minutes before Gays laughed that ploy out of existence.

As for having a black person that says abortion is racist, there are many high powered women that are anti-feminist spokespersons (Sarah Palin), and many Gay Republicans (even those out of the closet). The right wing like to appropriate the language of those that have fought for rights the right wing opposes. (Women who have abortions are 'exploited,' yada, yada - now African American women that choose not to have a baby are committing "genocide.")

It's insulting and ignorant - but that's never stopped the pro-forced childbirth crowd.




Edited 3/8/2010 2:07 pm ET by mom_carmina
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Registered: 06-24-2009
Mon, 03-08-2010 - 10:10am

< If the same applied to abortion it would be a step forward. >

There are those that think the same about segregation. But the Supreme Court is the arbiter of civil rights, not the states.

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Registered: 06-24-2009
Mon, 03-08-2010 - 10:09am

< Abortion is always a great enabler of dysfunction. >

Often Marriage is, too but we don't outlaw that.

But those that think forced childbearing is a good thing will always try bring it back, no matter how dysfunctional it was for our society.




Edited 3/8/2010 10:12 am ET by mom_carmina
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Registered: 04-10-2003
Mon, 03-08-2010 - 8:02am
Exactly. How insulting to black women everywhere. As if she doesn't have the intelligence and right to sovereignty over her own body and health care choices.
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Registered: 02-06-2009
Mon, 03-08-2010 - 7:01am

I think I'd be pretty livid if I were a black woman and my history was being used in this way.

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Mon, 03-08-2010 - 12:57am

Really? Because a jurisdiction can't choose to extradite a criminal to another state just to get the death penalty, but a woman can cross state lines to obtain an abortion. Even national boundaries.

And, when we let states decide such things as personal sovereignty issues, we open the door to a whole lot more in the way of personal violation by the state. I personally don't want to give that right to them. My personal choices in birth control are none of the state's business.

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