For the religous side

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For the religous side
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Mon, 05-07-2007 - 11:02am
I grew up in a religous family and have always been told a sin is a sin...Plain and simple. So for those of you who feel having an abortion is a sin and goes against god, then I assume you never had premarital sex, or had a child out of wedlock??? To me if you are going to tell someone that they are a sinner and going against god for aborting, you should be as pure as can be, because otherwise you are a hypocrite...At least in my opinion...how do others feel???

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Registered: 01-07-2007
Mon, 05-07-2007 - 11:44am

I think organized religion is more a cult than anything else and is in general detrimental to an individual persons ability to think for themselves.

The bible is a story (or group of stories) and it contains guidelines, life lessons if you will. However these things were written so long ago that some need to be tapered to fit our present world and they haven't been.

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Registered: 02-28-2007
Mon, 05-07-2007 - 3:17pm

I somewhat grew up in religion (my family began going to church when I was 9 and I totally embraced it). I have my whole life believed in God.
I was big into the childrens programs in the church my parents (and I) attended, voluntered I mean, and I went on many missions trips (usually childrens outreach programs).

Well, I did have sex before marriage and I ended up pregnant. Dh and I got married when I was 4 months pregnant with our daughter. We did attend church and ended up not being able to handle the judgement. The sad thing is that the church I attended called itself a non-judgemental church. The other sad thing is that (even thought I would not have chose this, I was 22) if I had chosen to have an abortion no one would ever have even known better.

While I still believe in God, I do not attend any church.

What I believe is that what a person does is between them and God. Everyone has sinned, God can forgive all of us, and the final judgement is his. It is no right of mine, or anyone else to judge someone for having an abortion, premarital sex, or children out of wedlock.

What really opened up my eyes and made me realize that I had no right to throw stones, is that I am on birth control. And since I believe that life begins at conception and that it would be wrong for me to take that life, and I chose to continue taking the pill for the best of my family. And that made me realize that since I made that choice that other women are making the best choice for their families in whatever they are chosing. I don't have to agree with their decisions.

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Registered: 04-15-2006
Mon, 05-07-2007 - 3:41pm

"So for those of you who feel having an abortion is a sin and goes against god, then I assume you never had premarital sex, or had a child out of wedlock??? To me if you are going to tell someone that they are a sinner and going against god for aborting, you should be as pure as can be, because otherwise you are a hypocrite"

I think you answered your own question. Nobody is "pure as pure can be" so I don't think anyone has the right to tell YOU (general) that abortion is wrong for everyone since
1) Not one of them is without sin and not one of them has the right to judge others
2) We are accountable for our own decisions- NO ONE ELSE.

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Registered: 12-11-2006
Mon, 05-07-2007 - 3:51pm

well then I guess the men and women who speak in AA or NA meetings (who are sober) better keep quite and not teach or try to tell other alcholics or drug users to try and become clean b/c they would be hypocrites?

I think ppl who have been there done that are the best ppl to tell others the consequences (long term) or tell them the truth about abortion and how it not only destroys your precious childs life but your own too. MOST women need to go on anti-depressants when the truth finally hits them. Many cant conceive after an abortion ( i know about 4 women right now who had abortions when they were younger and they cant have kids now).

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Registered: 04-09-2003
Mon, 05-07-2007 - 4:01pm

>>>MOST women need to go on anti-depressants when the truth finally hits them.<<<

Thank you in advance for the extensive amounts of data on this. We'll be awaiting your findings. :)

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Registered: 08-18-2006
Mon, 05-07-2007 - 4:04pm

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No thats not the same at all. It would only be the same if the people regreted having sex before marriage or regretted hvaing a child out of wedlock. Most people dont yet feel that they are still allowed to judge others.

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For a lot of women abortion makes their life better. It may not happen right away but for me, I was devesated in the beginning but now a few years later, I am sooo happy i made that chocie. Now I actually get to live my life and make something out of myself, If i hadn't aborted I probably never would ahve become someone.

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Not really true. But you can tell yourself that. Most women who go on AD's after abortion have other things going on in their lives that ahve upset them and the abortion pushed them over the edge

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Not true again. Abortion only effects your fertility if you got an infection from the procedure. There are many people who get pregnant have the child and cant have other children.

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Registered: 03-07-2007
Mon, 05-07-2007 - 4:36pm

"MOST women need to go on anti-depressants when the truth finally hits them. Many cant conceive after an abortion ( i know about 4 women right now who had abortions when they were younger and they cant have kids now)."

Baloney. Prove it. You know 4 women. I know 5 who had abortions when they were younger and they have ALL gone on to successfully have children and with healthy pregnancies to boot.

When you have a reputable study to back up either of your statements, I look forward to seeing it.

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Registered: 04-25-2007
Mon, 05-07-2007 - 5:59pm
I agree completely. I, personally, would only get one in the case of rape or medical reasons. But I'm not going to tell anyone else what I think they should do/not do. It's not my decision to make for them.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 05-07-2007 - 7:39pm

Are you kidding me? Where do you come up with this stuff?! Really!! Looking forward to seeing some sort of data from a reputable site (as in not biased).

As an aside, I had an abortion (which I have never regretted). I later conceived 3 times (quite easily I might add). I've never been on anti-depressants either.

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Registered: 03-10-2006
Mon, 05-07-2007 - 11:44pm

I have to disagree with you.

Not all Christian churches take the bible literally.
For instance my church has changed their doctrine through the years.
I belong to the United Church and they actually petitioned the government to decriminalize abortion. Our doctrine is that an abortion is an issue between a woman and her doctor.
Our church is very much based on human rights.
We do not discriminate against race, gender, or sexual preference.
Unfortunately people hear so much from the christian fundamentalists, they fail to realize there are lots of churches that have changed with the times.


http://www.united-church.ca/policies/1989/a116.shtm

Lesley,

Mom to Grace and Joseph

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