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Mon, 02-25-2008 - 8:08am

Some you may know, but others may be unaware that the first charges of made against abusive parents were made under the guise of 'animal cruelty'.

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Registered: 03-18-2004
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 8:19am

The first child abuse laws had to be charged under animal cruelty because there were no laws in effect that mentioned child abuse either way.

>>In time, perhaps that same outrage and knowledge of the facts will bring forward laws protecting and establishing rights for the smallest humans - the unborn.<<

What facts do you think people are missing. You are talking like people who are PC just never bothered to learn anything about abortion.




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Registered: 05-06-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 8:26am
I was PL before having my daughter. Then I after having her I changed to strongly PC. During this time, I researched abortion like it was my job. I am much, much informed on the abortion issue these days than I was when I was PL.

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Registered: 01-07-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 8:55am

And then maybe one day the government will intrude such that a pregnant woman can be held accountable to *abuse* the z/e/f might have incurred by the food she ate or her lack of exercise and optimum health while gestating.

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Registered: 05-06-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 8:59am

What I don't get is why PLers care so much about a fetus but not the born child?

In my own experience, for example, I've heard that I shouldn't have aborted the z/e/f in order to protect my born daughter from abuse and possibly being left motherless. Why is the need to protect her so much less now that she's no longer in my uterus?

If some PLers claim fetus = the value of a child, why doesnt the equation work in reverse?

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&nbs

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Registered: 01-07-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 9:06am

I agree.

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Registered: 05-06-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 9:18am

"I agree. And at what point do *I*, as I was previously a z/e/f, child, toddler, teen, etc., lose all my rights? I mean it seems the claim being made is that we should start of having rights before we are born but then at some point we totally must give up those rights."

That is a great point and actually I had never thought of it like that. You're so smart for a Monday morning. :-)

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&nbs

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Registered: 01-07-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 9:20am
Hee hee, that's because my 7 month old only got up ONCE last night, YIPEE! :)

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Registered: 04-10-2003
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 10:04am

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And you ask why som ePCers (like myself) choose to donate all of their time and resources to keep abortion legal instead of toward sex education and other efforts to reduce the need for it.

Quit trying to legislate the right away and maybe you'll free up more resources from both sides of the battle.


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Registered: 02-04-2008
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 10:16am
Nope, just dismiss, dehumanize and place less importance on a life that isn't their own.

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Registered: 03-18-2004
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 10:19am
It is not the unborn that the law regards as a womans property it is the unborns place of residence.



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