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Right obtained for all
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Mon, 02-25-2008 - 8:08am

Some you may know, but others may be unaware that the first charges of made against abusive parents were made under the guise of 'animal cruelty'.

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Registered: 02-04-2008
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 10:20am

A distortion and misconception at the least.


I, as a PL, have helped SEVERAL abused mothers and their children get away from their abuser.

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Registered: 05-06-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 10:21am

"History has brought change for many of those groups - and hopfully will one day for the unborn."

In all seriousness, why do you care more about the unborn than the born? I'm honestly interested.

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Registered: 05-06-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 10:23am
Ok. In my situation, why do you feel that I should have given birth to the fetus even though my daughter's safety and life would have been at risk. Why was that z/e/f more valuable?

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&nbs

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 10:31am

Does one have a legal right to be kept on life-support technology? No. Your spouse, your parents, your children, your siblings, any of these individuals can choose to terminate such if they and the doctors believe that such treatment will not result in significant recovery.


Now, since as a living PERSON one does not have the right to life support technology, why should a z/e/f be given MORE rights, particularly when the life-support system we're talking about is the body of another individual?


I am not bound by law to provide organs nor blood nor tissue, why should I be required by law to serve as a life-support machine?

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Registered: 03-07-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 11:16am

How horrible!

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Registered: 03-07-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 11:22am

" but then at some point we totally must give up those rights."

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Registered: 01-07-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 11:25am
The idea definitely has the feel of 'barefoot and pregnant' times, kind of like forcing a woman 'in her place'.
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Registered: 04-15-2006
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 11:30am

"How horrible!

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Registered: 06-17-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 12:13pm

"a pregnant woman can be held accountable to *abuse* the z/e/f might have incurred by the food she ate or her lack of exercise and optimum health while gestating."

I've been quite sick lately with the flu, and it dawned on me that I can't remember the last time I ate a vegetable (probably the week before last). I should be imprisoned, right? ;)




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Registered: 06-17-2007
Mon, 02-25-2008 - 12:22pm

"Property (in this case the unborn) is always secondary, right? Well, the same was true of slaves of all types, children and even ethnic groups."

Okay, we've gone over this before. If regular children are by law submissive to their parents and many other adults, why is a fetus any more special? You do not require any woman to donate of her own body for her children- her lung, her kidney, her blood, her bone marrow, not even her breastmilk, so why would you grant an embryo more rights to her body than a born child?

Two entities cannot retain executive control over one body while they must exist in that body. One must be submissive to the other.




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