Sanger - racist and eugenisist

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Registered: 01-11-2008
Sanger - racist and eugenisist
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Sun, 02-03-2008 - 11:06pm

Interesting read from the mother of PP.ague


http://swiss.csail.mit.edu/~rauch/abortion_eugenics/sanger/


http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~rauch/abortion_eugenics/star-tribune_eugenics.html


Sure, she was pro woman - as long as you were the 'right' kind of woman.

 "Pascal's Wager," which states that believing in God costs you nothing if you're wrong, and wins you everything if you're right.

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Registered: 04-10-2003
Mon, 02-04-2008 - 8:57pm
You couldn't pay me to get a boob job period. Unless it was reconstructive after a mastectomy.

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Registered: 06-03-2007
Mon, 02-04-2008 - 9:29pm

<<$515 for what essentially is about 5 days of Ortho Novum.>>

The abortion pill mifepristone is not chemically similar to oral contraception or the morning after pill (that's the one I think you're thinking of). Those two are synthetic estrogens and progesterones. Mifepristone is a progesterone blocker. So it's like the opposite of 5 days of Ortho Novum. :)

The reason its so dang expensive is that there's only one company that can manufacture it - Danco labs. The cost to the physician is actually that high. It'll get better when it goes generic. If it's been available in the US since ~2001, does anyone know when the patent will expire?

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Registered: 04-10-2003
Mon, 02-04-2008 - 9:34pm
You're right- I confused the 2. So, do you know how much it usually post providers?

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Registered: 06-03-2007
Mon, 02-04-2008 - 10:08pm

The military stance on abortion makes me nuts.

They won't allow the procedure on base unless it's for rape or to save the woman's life, and even then she has to pay for it.

Here's a quote from this article:
"Beth Eby, an Army warrant officer who was stationed in Baghdad from January through July, e-mailed her parents in Roanoke, Va., in May that some pregnant soldiers in her unit opted to perform abortions on themselves rather than face disciplinary measures.

Women had been warned of "harsh punishment" for becoming pregnant in violation of a no-sex rule, and the Army had even stopped handing out condoms to her unit in the apparent hope it would discourage sexual activities, Eby said in one of a series of e-mails home."

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_abortion_081904,00.html

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Registered: 06-03-2007
Mon, 02-04-2008 - 10:11pm
I don't know the actual dollar cost, but I was told that the cost to the clinic to provide a medication abortion is greater than to provide a surgical termination, when you tally up staff and supplies. That boggles the mind, considering the physician and RN time, sterilization of tools, staffing the recovery room. It's probably right at $500.
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Registered: 01-07-2007
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 6:57am

I don't believe they should provide the service on base.

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Registered: 01-07-2007
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 7:00am
I'll also point out they are not *free*.
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Registered: 01-07-2007
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 7:14am

I found this info, in case you're interested. :)


http://www.nchla.org/legissectiondisplay.asp?ID=661


http://www.nchla.org/datasource/ifactsheets/MilAbrtPol.PDF


Apparently an ammendment was proposed to allow for the morning after pill to be availabe at military health care facilities however the request was eventually withdrawn--I didn't see there was a reason mentioned.

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Registered: 04-10-2003
Tue, 02-05-2008 - 7:29am

Thanks- it IS mind-boggling- especially since it's being manufactured in China <>

SO that price is right about where pretzelpreggo's friend was charged for it. So govt funds were likely not being used for her friend's medical abortion.


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Registered: 08-31-2004
Wed, 02-06-2008 - 8:58am


I live in a country with universal health care, and I can assure you that that statement is completely false.


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