The Silent Scream

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Tue, 01-22-2008 - 11:39pm

Hello! I'm new to this board. I am a very passionate prolifer and not for religious reasons. I wasn't sure if any of you had heard or seen this film before. It is very moving to say the least. I was able to find it on youtube. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THS2zZ4m260. I hope it works. I would love to hear feedback if you watch it! Thanks!

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Registered: 06-03-2007
In reply to: runluv
Thu, 02-07-2008 - 3:33pm

I most closely agree with holly's stated viewpoint here. I'm pissed at the makers of Gardasil for strong-arming their roll-out of this vaccine in order to get in ahead of Cervarix, I am mad about their lame political maneuvering and pushes at legislation which have created this backlash.
Now we have a huge demographic which happily vax's for Hep B (another STI which creates cancer) in infancy - no problem with that - but because Gardasil was so crudely handled they are rejecting it.

Honestly here in the US women can mostly access Pap smears anyhow...this vaccine will save hundreds of thousands of lives once it becomes available to third-world women who don't have that kind of care. Cervical cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in women in Africa.

In an odd coincidence, today another huge Gardasil trial presented such strong efficacy data that it was considered to be unethical to continue the study. They curtailed it to offer the vaccine to the placebo group.
Here's the news:

LONDON (Reuters) - New data from a combined analysis of four Phase II/III studies involving more than 20,000 women confirm the effectiveness of Merck & Co Inc's cervical cancer vaccine Gardasil, researchers said on Thursday.

Gardasil sustained 98 to 100 percent efficacy in preventing vaccine virus type-related precancerous cervical lesions in young women.

"The results ... include by far the longest follow-up for any cervical cancer vaccine in large Phase III studies and strongly substantiate the evidence that the protection provided by Gardasil will be long-lasting," said Elmar Joura of the University of Vienna.

The new data were presented at the 19th International Congress on Anti-Cancer Treatment in Paris.

In light of the high efficacy, the independent monitors of the Phase III trials have recommended the studies be terminated in order to provide the benefits of Gardasil to the women in the placebo group.

Gardasil is sold by Merck in the United States and in Europe by Sanofi Pasteur MSD, a 50/50 joint venture between Sanofi-Aventis SA and Merck.

It competes in Europe against GlaxoSmithKline Plc's rival product Cervarix, which has yet to be approved in the United States.

Both vaccines are designed to be given to girls and young women to protect against cancer-causing strains of the sexually transmitted human papillomavirus (HPV).
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSL0715745420080207

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Registered: 01-07-2007
In reply to: runluv
Thu, 02-07-2008 - 5:55pm

"Maybe young women, but I don't know about girls. Do you remember getting your MMR shot in high school and saying to yourself, "Great! Now I can be exposed to Rubella!" Or getting your DPT shot and saying, "Rusty nails, here I come!"


I don't really see that as being the same thing.


How long as the pill been around?

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Registered: 08-31-2004
In reply to: runluv
Sun, 02-10-2008 - 10:04am

Be my guest :O)

Would it be ok to pick your brain about TTC over email?


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Registered: 08-31-2004
In reply to: runluv
Sun, 02-10-2008 - 10:04am
Unless it's arrived over the weekend, I'm going to say no.

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Registered: 08-31-2004
In reply to: runluv
Sun, 02-10-2008 - 10:07am
Naturally I support your right to do/not do whatever you think is best wrt immunisation for this or any other disease. But since we're debating it ;o) don't you think it's better to prevent some rather than none, even if preventing all isn't possible?

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In reply to: runluv
Sun, 02-10-2008 - 10:08am

This is what I'm thinking. I also plan to immunise any daughter I may have at the appropriate time. Maybe by the time our girls are old enough, an even better solution may be available


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Registered: 01-07-2007
In reply to: runluv
Sun, 02-10-2008 - 10:26am

No, I don't think it's better to try to prevent some rather than none, in this particular case.

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In reply to: runluv
Sun, 02-10-2008 - 10:34am
feel free to pick what is left of my brain at any time. I must warn you though the pickings are very slim lol








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Registered: 04-03-2005
In reply to: runluv
Sun, 02-10-2008 - 12:22pm

"This is what I'm thinking. I also plan to immunise any daughter I may have at the appropriate time."


That's the thing though... at the appropriate time... They're trying to get it (in the states) pushed so that every female child will "have" to have this vaccine before starting school. I mean, yes... There are exemptions and such for vaccines... I myself choose not to vaccinate my children anymore (because of some VERY adverse effects that occurred in my oldest that are just NOW- after 2 years since his last vaccine- starting to rectify themselves.... If, however, when a girl reaches the age where she chooses to become sexually active, I think she should be given the choice as to whether or not she wants this vaccination.


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Registered: 08-31-2004
In reply to: runluv
Sun, 02-10-2008 - 3:42pm

Actually you'll be in an excellent position to see results fairly soon, as the UK govt is about to roll this vaccine out to be administered to schoolage girls as part of the NHS. By the time your daughter is of the appropriate age, there will be a lot more information on the vaccine and its longterm results.

In the meantime, I take your point and thank you for explaining it to me.


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