Superbowl ad, now that we've seen it...

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Superbowl ad, now that we've seen it...
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Mon, 02-08-2010 - 9:38am

...what are your thoughts on it?


I was actually pleasantly surprised that they really didn't force any sort of viewpoints on the viewers.

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Registered: 04-29-2005
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 6:18pm

Maybe I missed it but is NOW also drawing attention to the "negative message" in the Snickers ad or do they only think that this one is offensive because it was paid for by a group that they don't agree with?

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Registered: 12-16-2009
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 6:20pm

~Then perhaps she needs professional help~

She is receiving that.

~that ad was seriously not that bad~

I understand that's your opinion.

~Good for you~ ~Bully for you~

We're done.

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Registered: 06-04-2004
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 6:25pm

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But *why*? I don't understand your point.

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I disagree that you or anyone else is in a position to judge what someone else feels is an abusive situation for them. I think that's pretty unfair, actually. I don't think you get to decide what is or isn't "real abuse", whatever that is supposed to mean.

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Yet you apparently "presume to speak for ALL DV survivors" in some of your own statements on the topic, like above, where you say that you, because of your own history of abuse, are in a position to judge what constitutes "real abuse" in someone else's life. Interesting...

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What's a "no-brainer"? That men who play football should be expected to pretend to assault their mothers?

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I'm sure this is how it was "intended", possibly even dictated, by the deep pockets that helped FOTF create their commercial. But that doesn't mean that some people won't, and can't, construe it differently.

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But *why*? And what if some people don't see her actions as being "needless"? Don't the same freedoms of expression that allow the commercial to be aired in the first place also apply to those who oppose it?

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I think it's much more than that. IMO, it's a commercial for an entire political and social mindset, not just a single religious organization. But YMMV, of course.

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To YOU, it may be "nothing". To others, it's obviously *something*. Why not let them have their own opinions and feelings about it?

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Registered: 06-04-2004
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 6:27pm

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I have no idea. I didn't even see the Snickers ad, or the Super Bowl. I barely watch TV at all, let alone sporting events, and I only saw the FOTF commercial after the fact, on a Yahoo blog.

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Registered: 02-28-2008
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 7:13pm

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Jennifer:

As a DV survivor suggesting that another survivor get counseling and learn to live in spite of their trauma is the MOST respectful,compassionate and good thing to say. In therapy one can learn to deal with what happened and learn to live with the scars and accept themselves despite them.

You were saying?

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Registered: 06-04-2004
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 7:15pm

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You were saying?>>>

The above is the kind of thing you SHOULD have said. Not the flippant comment you did make.

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Registered: 02-28-2008
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 7:35pm

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AGain I said that was how I felt and no Im not presuming to know what others are feeling about their particular situation but it's like one addict knowing an addict. It's a common thing that you see and you know what you are looking at when you do.

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I don't presume I worded it wrongly and I appear to presume I spoke from emotion but I did warn that was where it came from.

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How about that it was all in good fun and no one got hurt you know,the way the snickers ad was about fun? I'm sure that a candy company wasn't advocating elder abuse abe and betty were both tackled in that commercial and both had the time of their lives making it. Did you find that funny? if you did,then certainly you could not have been too offended by the Tebow ad.

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You are right but that doesn't mean that because they see it there means that ,that is what it is. it is clearly not. you said yourself that if you didn't know it was a pro life commercial you wouldn't have gotten a clue from the content but you now suddenly see DV? hmmm ok.

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Oh she has a perfect right to say what she will about it but then I have the perfect right to call her out on what I see as grade A BS.

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You are right but it's a political and social message about ABORTION not and advocacy for DV.
I could SAY that people who use ATM machines before I do have conspired to infect me with their germs but is it true? Is that even in the realm of possibility?

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YEs and I'm glad that is your position.

See my above conspiracy theroy,Now anyone has the perfect right to feel they way they do about any given situation but, I reserve the right to say that it sounds crazy or that its bull.

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Registered: 02-28-2008
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 7:36pm
I did say that you CONSTRUED it to mean otherwise.
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Registered: 06-04-2004
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 7:50pm

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Sorry, but I disagree.

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Well, you keep saying things like the above, like that it's comparable to "an addict knowing an addict". I just don't see why you feel you can put yourself in that position, whether it's coming from "emotion" or somewhere else.

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I'm sure most people do see it that way.

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Like I told marie-p, I didn't watch the Snickers ad, or the Super Bowl itself, either. I have no idea what happened in the Snickers ad, and I don't care to know. I also never said I agree with Terry O'Neill's stance, just that she has a right to her opinions about it. I feel the same way about someone who feels the Snickers ad promotes elder abuse. Who am I to decide what others should think or feel?

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Um, I never said any such thing. Maybe you should read my posts more carefully.

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Apparently, some disagree. So what?

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What, that people should be free to express their opinions? Yeah, I don't really want to live in a dictatorship, either. It's kind of nice having civil liberties, isn't it?

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Of course you do. What I (and others) take exception to are your statements about how Terry O'Neill couldn't possibly know what domestic violence is really like, or that people who haven't been abused as badly as you have don't know "real abuse". You're free to believe those things if you like, but please don't expect it to go unchallenged.

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Registered: 02-28-2008
Wed, 02-10-2010 - 8:32pm

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Maybe because I have been to hell and back in that situation I would better understand how someone who is in that situation or has been in the past would feel. I see situations and yes I say things I call people on their BS as I would expect them to do with me.

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And i disagree with them so what?

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mmm tis.

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I didn't expect it to go unchallenged and i still say that Terry O'NEil in all liklihood is lying about her experience but that is me,I also say that abuse varies in degrees and you can always find worse cases even as bad as my abuse was I know that I'm far luckier than the women who now rest on a cold slab. maybe not so lucky they at least get to rest in peace.

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